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Fallout: New Vegas
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Thanks for the tip Yap. Though I might have cleared out most of the quests…still there must be something left to do. That whole Legion area to the east for instance.

Speaking of mods, one of the few I installed was the invisible walls mod to get rid of the invisible barriers they stuck on top of all the ridges. It's amusing to climb over the hills to the  far west and walk down into….nothing at all. Wireframe topography with a dirt skin as far as the eye can see. Sort of spooky actually. Wonder if they have plans for this for a sequel?

I'm trying hard to get into Mass Effect 2 but it's soooooo serious after romping around in Wacky Wasteland.

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Scout, did you suggest to Veronica she join the Followers of the Apocalypse? That quest path leads to BoS betrayal. Hence my murderous rampage. I stand by it.

 

Finished the game, finally. Kimball's speech was so insanely choppy and lagged the first couple times I tried it. Turned off the PS3 for the day, picked up at night, it went better. Only one crash during endgame battle sequences.

Clocked 123 hours and change. The endgame itself was fun but mildly disappointing as I didn't see everyone I had sworn to assist me, such as the Khans. The Remnants all showed up, but only Cannibal Johnson came all the way across into Legion territory with me. I don't want to say much more due to spoilers.

 

The post-game wrap up is WAY too long... and I wish Ron Pearlman did all the voice overs, not someone from each respective group, or the people themselves. Anyway, pretty minor gripe.

 

All in all one of the best, most entertaining (not to mention bang for your buck) games I have ever played. The "true" sequel to Fallout 2. Better than Fallout 3 in regards to the quality of the writing, story, and acting. Also prefer the Mojave to the D.C. wastes; that is saying a lot, because I still think Fallout 3 is a bloody wonderful game. The only thing (note: it is A Big Thing) holding back New Vegas from the universally acclaimed status it should have been worth is obviously the lockup, hiccup, and freezing issues. Minor bugs: who cares? The bugs were never the problem, it turns out. I think I know better than the jokers who turned in their "reviews" after 25-30 hour play-throughs. It's definitely the crashing insanity that plagues certain areas (hint: the east) and the framerate death that occurs during certain parts of the game (Westside, Hoover Dam).

 

I can't wait to play it again with my typical second Fallout "meathead melee character." As noble as I thought some NCR intentions were, their ending is quite dickish: kicking the Followers out of Old Mormon Fort? Annexing Vegas? Was that really necessary? I wish you could sway some larger decisions within factions like that, but once again that's a minor gripe.

 

I recommend this game to any and all of you, with the one obvious disclaimer that the game will freeze and crash, probably many times on you. Maybe PC is better than PS3, I don't know. At about the 50 hour mark my game had probably crashed less than 10 times. By the end I would have to give an honest estimate of around 35 crashes, give or take a few. In 123 hours. So... you can decide there, at least by one person's experience, whether that to you is worth the risk, or if it is not.

I hope the crashing is addressed in future patches, but I don't think that is too likely. But one can hope.

 

This is Bethany, Level 30: Guardian of the Wastes, Play Time: 123:25:49, signing off.

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xtal said...

....I recommend this game to any and all of you, with the one obvious disclaimer that the game will freeze and crash, probably many times on you. Maybe PC is better than PS3, I don't know.

I have played about 35 hours with this game on a PC and it has never frozen or crashed.  That's my experience.

Kay

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I hope it keeps up for you, Kay. As much as I enjoyed the game I would've been able to enjoy it tenfold had so much freezing not occurred.

 

Good luck.

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I had my first crash (second if you count ten seconds into playing and trying to alt-tab) today in vault 11 while walking down an empty corridor. There've been plenty of other non-crash bugs, the standout being no cut scene for the ghoul rocket launch.

Jump-climbed the back Black Mountain at level four and killed the lady Super Mutant which probably bugged getting Raul. Phooey. It's not a big deal because ED & Boone kill most things before I see them. It took a half hour before I realized mine own personal Sputnik was making the music and longer still to realize it was connected to the burning corpses I kept finding in the desert.

Bugs aside, it's a great game and I'm having a ball where I'd pooped out on FO3 early. Bit worried about Vegas because the attempt to do everything in one go makes large towns paralysis triggers. Too. Many. Doors. Ack! Not there yet but I can see it in the distance, the shining city between the hills.

My new years resolution is to stop leaving games running 24/7 in the background. The insane play hours showing on Steam are embarrassing. [Image Can Not Be Found]There've been many, many hours burned trying to finish the toughest bits of Zuma Revenge but I swear not two hundred eighty-seven of 'em.

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Like Fink I drifted from FO3 about 20 hours in but I've been entranced by NV. A hard drive crash cost me my first game, so I'd been getting back up to speed when Santa Claus delivered some other games I need to play, but NV is definitely one I'll stay with.

 

I'm sorry you had so much trouble, xtal. I can only admit to an "average" number of crashes and no really serious bugs. Are other PS3 players suffering the same instability? My Steam copy has been just fine, really.

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I had one crash after three hours on the PC. Nearly to level 3. I got some leather armor off some powder gangers over near Sloan and then stole some better NCR armor at Prim. Several of the town residents helped me defeat the powder gangers in Goodsprings. Looks like I need to head to Prim now. Really enjoying the game.

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Fink, two things.

 

One, I don't think the lack of a cutscene where you expected one is a bug; are you aware that you had to visit the rooftop to see the rocket launch? I don't think it's mandatory, so you could miss it.

Two, the strip, and essentially the "center" of Vegas, is nothing at all like downtown D.C., which was a clusterfuck of doors, zones and passageways. The strip consists of just 3 main zone chunks; the first with a pair of casinos, the middle with another pair, and the last with Vault 21 and an NCR embassy. They are blocked off by giant tin can doors but there isn't even a loading screen pause between zones, just a quick screen fade to black and you're in the next area; no more than 2-3 seconds of loading.

 

Steerpike, I lived with the crashes, I know I threw out a huge number, but it was almost like they all occurred in massive chunks on maybe 3, 4, or 5 separate occasions of playing, and in very specific zones. I rarely lost much progress because of it; typically you know when a freeze is coming because the game really begins to chop and lag badly. It was just a waste of time is all. I've already started a new character, am about 6 hours in, and don't have a freeze yet. I'm convinced it's entirely exclusive to the eastern part of the map and a few exceptions elsewhere (Westside runs horribly, as do parts of McCarran Airport).

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Have some postings in this thread gone missing? I swear I saw one today by Kay about making the robot the sheriff and I replied after that. I can't find either now.

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Check the ED-E thread, Pokey.

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Oops, I see now. There are two New Vegas threads going. I was wondering if I had imagined it. Thanks for straightening me out.[Image Can Not Be Found]

I had my second crash and there is a blue icon with FFA on the right side of my taskbar. Anyone know what that is?

Later, I found out that it is ffdshow. Maybe it had nothing to do with the crash.

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Xtal, if facing the wrong way (staring at the console) outside one could miss the launch but it was definitely a bug. Looking it up it may've been because I convinced the guy he's not a ghoul. That seems to be a bug trigger.

The vault 11 infinite XP bug seems has been partially patched out. While XP is still awarded for looting the mantis corpses it is no longer possible to trade the legs back and forth to repeat the effect. I looked it up because I couldn't figure out why I was getting XP and a kill animation for looting them.

The game is extremely buggy.

I'll move to the other thread.

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I'll be back in Goodsprings tonight, my ten days of free WoW expire today. Ten days were just enough for brief walkabouts & the certainty I'm not ready to re-sub.

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Ack, a long post was consumed by gremlins.

 

Vault 11 was a lot of fun. I think the end was supposed to be difficult but a reload without Sputnik not accidentally set on melee attack and knowing where the spawns would be was easypeasy. Go into VAT, plink the turret's sensors out, and let their uncontrolled fire + Sputnik & Boone mop up while I had in a corner for VAT recharge. Popped out and crit the last robot in the head with the trust plasma defender.

The space suit armor did get shredded by bullets and the being set on fire, so it there was a trip back to Novac for repair materials in the hotel room.

I suspect I'm out leveling and out gearing the intended content by wandering the desert instead of following the main quest. Vault 11 got me level from middle 11 to almost 14 and there's a rotting collection of powerful weapons. Annabelle, That Gun, Paladin, RFC laser rifle, repeating pistol and rifle, grenade rifle, laser and plasma rifles. Piles of machine guns. Never used any of them. Armor is still a problem that'll probably bite hard soon enough.

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Yap, glad to see you are heading to Goodsprings. I am in Primm right now mopping up the escaped convicts. Just got lucky. Three convicts came at me in the hotel and one had an incinerator. That was bad odds and I was toast, so I reloaded. This time he was out of fuel and came at me with bare knuckles. Much better result. Still using the varmit rifle and pistol. Will check out the casino next.

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Pokey, that was the first at-level fight I had to reload. For a very long time I used the varmint rifle distance or a melee weapon up close, neither of which I had skills in, to save ammo for the better guns which I ended up leapfrogging. Even with low strength and no skills (my character) if you spam attacks with even a knife, much less use VAT, it'll take down most groups through Primm. Run over clickclickclick and stuff dies. If you get from the prison brass knuckles or spiked knuckles it is astonishingly effective. I was shocked. If you see armor on the target, switch to a pistol, hit VAT and click head as many times as it'll allow. Kerblooie.

Still mostly round around with a meat cleaver (chopper, don't bother using the unique Paladin electro puncher) to cleave up anything that makes it through Sputnik and Boone. VAT clickclickclick splatter.

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I thought about using a baseball bat against them. I found that if I used the pistol without VATS, it was often more effective. The rifle and pistol aren't worth much, so may got with melee and see how that goes. I have a cleaver.

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A lot of the combat is relatively easy on Normal until you run into the Deathclaws and those big wasp thingies which I forget the name of now. Calazones-something. Pay attention to the fast moving red spots if you have a spotter perk and you'll be able to skirt most of the wasps. You can also skirt the Deathclaws for the most part. But they do make for memorable fights, esp. the Deathclaws.

I died a lot less in this game than in Fallout 3 and I played both on normal with the same basic build. The early fights in Fallout 3 were much tougher for me. Also, good old 100 per cent Speech helps save some ammo with those what can talk good.

I think I bugged the Raul quest too by killing the Black Mountain Super Mutant leader though the game wouldn't let me climb up the back as I kept hitting invisible walls at the top. So I went up the front. It all happened so fast I didn't even notice she was the boss until I looted her. Never did run into Raul. That was an odd quest for me.

I know I mentioned it earlier (probably mentioned most of this earlier….) but most of my crashes were the occasional screen freezes I always seem to get with this engine.

I found the game much more enjoyable out in the wastelands than in town. Around New Vegas and immediate surroundings there were a lot of gates and doors to navigate. And the casinos were kind of a pain which you'll soon see why. But nothing was really a deal breaker compared to the high entertainment factor.

EDIT: Yeah, spiked knuckles are great! Be sure to give Veronica a pair too.

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I bought some brass knuckles from Nash at the casino. They had a high damage and were very effective when rushing the enemy, at least with the humans.

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Played for an hour, then a scorpian attacked. Killed it (finally after realizing my pistol was clicking on empty).  [Image Can Not Be Found] My HP fell! [Image Can Not Be Found] My HP fell further. [Image Can Not Be Found] My HP fell to almost nothing. [Image Can Not Be Found]--> [Image Can Not Be Found] No save.

Infected? Poisoned? I clicked more than one stimpak which slightly improved my HPs. However, periodically, the screen turned fuzzy & swirly & my HPs dropped. Couple o' those & I was dead. Could not have made it to the doctor as I could neither see nor move. What the hell happened?

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