I didn't put any points into staff fighting since I knew I wouln't use it. By the way, you can use your sword in the arena fights. Yapette and I used a sneaky way to defeat that guy. If you talk to people around the monastery, they give some hints on how to beat him. The second fight as well as the first one became much easier.
I found that level 7 fireball was adequate near the end of the game. I still had to do a bit of running, so at 10 it must be devastating. I was doing pretty well with my axe at level 7 as well. I could defeat just about everything except elite warriors.
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[Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] Comcast [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found]Congrats, Pokey. I knew that Boss would be "phffff" to you. What fun. Wish that Gothic 3 were more of the same but mustn't be as I easily abandoned playing after progressing very little.
Are you going to play Dragon Age: Origins? I preordered @ Amazon (slooooow free shipping). [Image Can Not Be Found]
Current plan is to wrap up S.H. & Jack R., Dracula 3, Overlord & Shivering Isles. Rather, however much I can manage while blinded by tears of boredom. [Image Can Not Be Found]
Yapette, I'm really not much of a fighter. I swing wildly and block once in a while and sometimes I am facing the wrong way. I do a lot of running and look for a sneaky way of winning. The final battle in Risen does not require a good fighter. You merely need to run to a safe rune and then get ready for your next swing.
You should give Gothic 3 (and 2 as well) another chance. I liked it a lot.The world is much bigger, but it plays like Risen. I had a great time freeing the big city.
I don't know if I'm going to play Dragon Age. I didn't care much for Neverwinter Nights or KOTOR and never played Baldurs Gate. I need to check out some reviews and trailers. Let me know what you think of it. It would be fun playing with a group.
I did enjoy Shivering Isles–a bit darker than Oblivion.
I saw where you guys were saying that people gave you tips on how to fight Aric but I never found a single person who ever told me anything and I scoured the place. Finally I just waded in and slugged it out with him. I actually had to fight him twice as the first time, in the arena, just as I knocked him down, I accidently killed him. The second time I lured him out of the bathhouse and into the courtyard and just kept pushing him into corners and chipping away. Each fight took about 10-15 minutes. I actually learned a lot about maneuvering in a Risen sword fight so it wasn't a total loss.
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Tsk, Scout, such a Macho Man.
The trick is first you gotta lose! Then & only then can you go around complaining & out of sympathy the others will let you in on some secrets. To his always winning. Except. When you're a Macho Man & beat him. [Image Can Not Be Found]
Pokey, funny you should mention NWN & KoTOR. I didn't like NWN, am afraid to install NWN2....enjoyed KoTOR & hated KoTOR2. I did like BG but that could be cuz I played with Scout. I still have installs & saves for both Gothic 2 & 3. Maybe Risen Withdrawal will drive me back.
I'm not totally in love with what I'm reading about DA:O but it's such an important game I must at least try it. Mostly I can't stand managing a party & fiddling with so many inventories.
Trouble with Shivering Isles - what's ruining in my opinion the best part of the game - is I'm bone tired of Oblivion's world. Been at it since I started gathering mods in March? April? Playing since maybe May. Too long for a game to hold my interest.
Toger, we can group. I also bought the strategy guide. [Image Can Not Be Found] Without a doubt, I spent as much as 20% of my gaming time on forums looking up this'n'that. Doubly-difficult when most info is in German & as yet no one has written any guides - lists, recipes, anything! - in English.
Pokey, I loved NWN and KotOR, but I've never played any of the Gothics or Baldur's Gate – I'm afraid of party management – yet DA:O appeals to me. And like Yap says, I should at least try it. I've been playing Dragon Age Journeys (flash version of DA:O) so that I at least have some idea of what to do. Maybe. [Image Can Not Be Found]
Yap, I'll be calling on your strategy guide help all the time, I'm sure.
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Hmmm. Ariq did beat me in the arena. Well, I beat him the first time but accidently killed him. Then I couldn't beat him again, though I kept reloading and trying cause I didn't want to lose all that gold. Then I gave up and went back to other things. Later, when I had to face Ariq in different circumstances I fought him again, using quick save/reload during the fight. I think I must have reloaded at the arena and never refought him. Thus the game thought I hadn't lost to him. Anyway, I'm not that great of a fighter either. Just stubborn and willing to expoit game commands.
So what is this Dragon Ages thing? Like Pokey, I'm not a big fan of NWN or KotOR though the first BG was kinda fun. I don't mind party management per se. I guess it depends on the party and the game world.
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So what is this Dragon Ages thing? Like Pokey, I'm not a big fan of NWN or KotOR though the first BG was kinda fun. I don't mind party management per se. I guess it depends on the party and the game world.
It's the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate series. It releases next week on PC, X360 & PS3.
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Hmmm. I am confused about which faction I'm on track to join now. I know I sided with the Order in Harbour Town and was asked, Mage or Warrior and I said Warrior. Then at the Monastery a while back in the game play I was asked if I wanted to "join" or "enter" or something either the Hall of Warriors or the Convocation. I said Convocation, thinking I wanted to get to the Crystals. Now I'm noticing two areas in the Monastery where I can't access. I'm thinking one is the Mage area and one is the Warrior area. Now I just heard from Ignatius that I'm about to be allowed to join the Convocation of Mages.
Hmmm. Did I just leave the Warriors and join the Mages? Can I keep my sword? Heh.
I did find the fireball crystal on Nathan once out of the Monastery...using scrolls and almost by pure luck so it must be destiny.... Love them scrolls btw. I'm also working on the scroll writing tests.
I guess I'll find out who I joined soon enough.
I thought you made your choice when you first entered the monastery. To Pallus' right was the warrior choice. I was unsure for a while but then talked to a recruit and confirmed I was training as a warrior. I don't know whether you can divert to mage later. The only place I couldn't enter was where the flame was. After I passed the initiation, I was allowed in, went through the convocation and Mendoza announced that I was a Warrior of the Order. You have choices of upgrade in strength or mana during the ceremony. I remember it was a bit confusing. You can only train to level 7 sword with the order.
I am wondering. I spent quite a lot of time in the Bandit camp and got the workers to work and the hunters to hunt and defeated all the fighters in the arena but seemed to have come to a point where I was not progressing. I could not find someone to teach me to prospect ore (which I though would be great for money and I had found quite a number of places with ore). And I was having no luck finding the 4th piece of the sword for the blacksmith and so couldn't get to talk to the Don (though I am not sure I want to).
So I went to town and it seems like I may not be able to get back out and go back to the Bandit camp. Am I stuck here in the town now? If I could find someone to teach me to prospect, I would sure like to get back out and make some money from ore.
I am still not sure what faction I want to join since I don't know much about any of them except the Bandits.
I am loving this game. The story is very tightly put together and the quests seem to be tied to the story. Often in Morrowind and Oblivion I would get so far into miscellaneous quests that I had trouble remembering what the main quest was. This is a smaller game but maybe a more elegant design.
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Kay, there are a couple ways to get out. If you have pickpocket level 2, you can steal the key. I just climbed up on the wall above the front gate and jumped off. Make sure you are at full health. You will have to avoid the recruits around the gate.
Olf, in the Don's house teaches prospecting, but you will have to find a way to talk to him. It may be a bandit quest. I recommend joining the order, either as a warrior or mage. I hear the bandit quests are not as interesting, and the monastery is very nice.
I had the same problem in the swamp. Nothing seemed to be advancing. Going to the city moved things along.
Glad to hear you are liking the game. [Image Can Not Be Found]
Thanks Pokey. It sounds like I should give up my obsession with prospecting (at least for a bit) and explore the town and the other factions more. I was not enthralled by the swamp or the bandits but they are all I know so far. Need to just keep playing for a bit and give the game time to develop more. kay
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Well, I did join the Order of Warriors after all.
Kay, like Pokey says. Get Pickpocket 2 and just steal the sword peices you need at the Bandit camp and the key to get out of the city. I didn't know you could sneak into the Don's Temple though I didn't try. I did talk to the Don and still joined the Order of Warriors so it doesn't matter. I think if you talk to the Don's right hand man he gives you a quest to attack the Order that you really don't want to take so be careful who else you talk to.
I took a quest at the farmhouse just below the Monastery to kill all the "Fluttering Moths" in order to save the pigs and the 8th moth is missing...hope that isn't another broken quest.
I have fireball 2 now and it great though the tougher enimies like the Scorpions are still too hard for me. I think I need better sword skills. I'm only at Sword 1. Heh.
Kay, welcome to the thread.
i am moving right along and still liking this game. Pokey I found some ways in and out of Harbor Town and after getting Prospect Ore went out and prospected and sold to the smithy at the Bandits to make some money+ and ugraded my lockpick and picklock skills while I was there.
After spending some time in Harbor Town working on quests, life in the swamps lost most of its appeal and I decided to go for the Order. Did most of the quests I could find in Harbor Town and then got myself sent to the Monestery and have just started there.
Despite the advice from all of you to go with the Order, I am becoming a Monk. This is the first game in which the magic seems like it might be a managable amount to learn (unlike Morrowind and Oblivion which have so much magic of so many different kinds that I was always bewildered). Of course, so far in the game I have spent most of my precious learning points on things that may not be so useful for a Monk. I am sword 2, crossbow 2, alchemy 1, prospect ore, gut animal, sneak, open lock 2, picklock2 and strength 43. But I do not plan to be a normal Monk. I sure am not going to use this stupid staff to protect myself and as a monk I expect that there will be many opportunities to use my less virtuous skills
Anyway, I am having a lot of fun. [Image Can Not Be Found]
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Pokey, one of the things that tipped me to Mage is that you can use runes directly and don't have to keep making scrolls. This may turn out to be a “nothing” benefit. I don't know yet. But really I became a mage because I was such a dismal failure as a mage in Oblivion. As I said on the Oblivion thread, never has an Arch Mage known so little magic. kay
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