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Toger
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I made it out of the sewers yesterday. So far, I've been attacked by several mud crabs, a flying imp, a bandit and wolves. This was all before I got my bearings and made it into the Imperial City. I found something called Sideways Cave and Fort Something or Other, but didn't go in. I still have to get used to the whole open-ness of the world. I've been wandering around the various sections of the City just looking at stuff and talking to people. What I really want to do is sell off all the crap I've accumulated, so I'm waiting for the Market to open.

What's made me laugh is when I've dispatched a humanoid and elect to "take all", I'm stripping them down to their skivvies. That was a surprise the first time I did that. 😀

Last night, I left off in the Dark Horse Courier offices considering all kinds of breaking/entering and thievery. And I am not a thief. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I've contracted Helljoint. WTF? And it was such a cute little wolf, too!

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I might suggest that you close your doors at night when sleeping in an effort to avoid being turned to a Vampire. There's a time and a place for being a Vampire, there are some nice perks too, but generally I found it to be a pain, and the cure is a pain to obtain.

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So far, I've only slept once - in some sort of Inn, with a basement room. So, no problems with windows. Yet. The bedrolls I've come across for sleeping just don't meet with my delicate sensibilites... [Image Can Not Be Found]

I spent most of my play time last night working my way through Sideways cave. There's something to be said for sneaking up on Imps and getting in a shot with the bow before they come running (flying) with their fancy lightning or fire spells.

Is it just me, or is money hard to come by?

I stole some lovely leather boots from the Dark Horse Courier offices. What I completely forgot to do was stock up on health potions. So far, I've been doing well enough that I don't have to quaff potions like water, but I feel better when I have more than 4 in my inventory. You know, just in case I get stupid.

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Money is very hard to come by early on in the game; give it a few hours and there'll be money coming out your ears.

Stolen property is also a jewel: no one'll buy it from you unless you're a member of the Thieves Guild, and then only their fences will do it. Also be careful not to brush against something that doesn't belong to you. In this game's infinite wisdom, inadvertantly trying a door that's locked will get you arrested. This is because the designers at Bethesda are REALLLY FUCKING SMART.

Sorry.

I just got a 5GP fine for trying to open a door. It was 7:44, the shop didn't open til nine. My bad.

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Well,  I am still playing and I am a happy one.  From faciing decimation in Krvach,  I reloaded.   I went back to Waylon Priory and got myself a horse.  

And I and my horse are trotting around to various cities and joining the Mage and Fighter Guilds and doing minor level quests for them. It gives me experience. It lets me learn about a city and who ity I can sell stuff to.  It lets me see the countryside.    And believe me people, playing this game just by transporting is no way to play this game.

You have to get out and look around and experience nature.   It is lovely to trot through the wilderness on your horse in the rain.  It is wonderful to see the night sky.  And early on you get a chance to build your skills by fighting low level foes

My best experience to date was to leave my horse and climb to Cloud Top to get a book for the head of the Mage's Guide in some town.   It was a logistical nightmare.   Just when I thought I was  almost there, the terrain was too steep to climb and I had to go down lower and find another way up.   This happened again and again.  But believe me,  when I got to top I sure felt good. 

As you can tell, I am really loving this game.  [Image Can Not Be Found]  Kay  

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Hey, Steerpike, did you see my magicka info two pages back? If nothing else, try the regen mod.

I bought the next level of fire spell - Flash Bolt (20 pts dam), not as good as a fireball but better than flare.  As I can cast it at lvl 2, perhaps skill levels are skewed due to my XP leveling mod. They may start higher than vanilla but raise very very slowly. I can't check how I'm progressing using any menus so I am ignoring the process altogether.

Kay, last go-round someone at the priory offered me a horse. Soon after I left it tethered somewhere while I went climbing...and....apparently wolves ate it! BE FOREWARNED - what can kill you, can likewise kill your horse. This time, no one gave me a horse but I left for Chorrol before nagging (pun) everyone in the vicinity.

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I sure did, thanks Yap. I've got 2x regeneration installed and it seems to be working like a charm. Now i can use my spells more frequently in combat while still attempting to play the game like Scout does - STEERPIKE SMASH!

I got a little turned around on my way to Cloud Top and found myself in an Ayelid ruin. I'm a sucker for those places because they often house sweet loot and my much-beloved Varla stones. So far nothing, but I did bring along a handy summon skeleton spell... useful since my weapon's only steel and won't hurt the ghosts. Flash bolts and skeletons do, though!

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I really like that summon skelly spell although he doesn't live long if foes are too many or strong. I use him as an aggro magnet while I zap from a safe distance. That's a tactic I plan to use throughout the game….now if only I could find who sells a better summon spell.

In related news, so far, I've trained….nunce! I tend to hoard my 5/5 training sessions per level when I can't find trainers for skills I want to raise most.

Edit: Much, much later. All this time, two installs over two years, I never knew about the tabs underneath the health/magicka/fatigue bars on the menu. Always wondered where to find info about my stats and how my skills were progressing (rollie-eyes).

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To summarize, Kay's obviously happy... What does everyone else think of Oblivion now?

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I find it no less boring, whitebread bland & sterile than the last time I tried to play it. This time with modded annoyances - pretty soon the game will look & play like…..The Witcher. [Image Can Not Be Found]

I have played content 0-1 seems like a dozen times - latest when I clicked exit when I didn't mean to. Back to having killed the goblins for the wimp father's sons in the farmyard but not yet getting my reward. If ever I reach new content, I might enjoy myself.

This time I'm approaching the game like an endless free-to-play m(assive)orpg minus the multiplayer. All the time in the world, exploration over central plot, getting to know npcs more important than completing quests. I may install Ruined Tail as a companion while I uncover the world. His worldview is depressing plus he complains a lot, so I find him refreshing company.

What? You thought we'd gush? [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I'll gush. Just get a big axe and chop your way through Oblivion. Yum. [Image Can Not Be Found] No muss, no fuss.

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I haven't spent enough time with it to either gush or whine. What I've played so far is different from what I'm used to in that the NPCs appear almost life-like in their random conversations with each other. The world is populated and non-main quest related events happen on their own cycle (shops open during certain times)... which I like, don't get me wrong.

In a weird twist, I miss the linearity of NWN or KoTOR, but I'm strange. So getting used to the go anywhere, do anything aspect is taking me a bit of time. I will say that I've not been sucked into the story from the get-go like I was with NWN or KoTOR. Compared to the two I've mentioned, Oblivion feels sedate… no, slower-paced somehow. There's none of that frantic “go here before this event happens” even though I know that almost all games (Last Express is a great example of the game not waiting for you.) will wait for me to catch up before the story moves on.

In a long-winded way, it's early days yet so I'm on the fence still. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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It's a Bethedsa game world, toger. Story is probably not their strong suit. I'm telling you guys…just settle for wreaking havoc and the game will work for you. Try and “game” Oblivion and you'll be disappointed.

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Yap, it's time.

It's time.

It's time to break you into S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

The transition won't be easy (it'll be agonizing), but you'll thank us in the long run. By "us" I mean me and Helmut, as we'll be there for you (but you can't trust him), to guide you and support you. Now's your chance at a real world. 🙂

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I have decided it's a digital conspiracy. At lvl 1 I have 97 saves + no less than 30 steamsaves but I had to reload back to 5/6. Why? Somehow (who knows where) I pissed off the Mage Guild enough to be kicked. And I refuse to collect 20 of some impossible to find herb so I can rejoin.

Ok, so I reload all the way back, replay for the millionth time and end up accidently killing an npc while fighting Giant Black-Armor-Clad Somethings who are attacking the vineyard outside Skingrad. Found out I was responsible for the body in the grass when I saw a 1000 bounty next to my name.

W. T. H.??? If this weren't so pathetic I'd be laughing. [Image Can Not Be Found][Image Can Not Be Found][Image Can Not Be Found]

I don't want to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (she whines), I want to wander the World of Whitebread with my whiny sidekick Tail.

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Well, as I recall you did play STALKER, at least long enough to give us a column about it, so I guess you can stay in the World of Whitebread for now. Gotta stop killing those civilians, though!

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Scout said:

It's a Bethedsa game world, toger. Story is probably not their strong suit. I'm telling you guys…just settle for wreaking havoc and the game will work for you. Try and “game” Oblivion and you'll be disappointed.


Ohhh! So, basically it's a prettier, more lively version of Diablo? Why didn't someone mention that before? Here I am waiting for the epic tale to kick in when I should just slam the hell outta whatever gets in my way! [Image Can Not Be Found]

Now that I know this, I feel much better about the game!

I finished up Sideways Cave and teleported back to Imperial City to await morning so I can off-load all my phat lewt. Next I need to locate a shrine to get rid of this damn Helljoint infection as it's seriously harshing my mellow.

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I  get it. 

 What I get is why people were dissatisfied with this game.   When I started off,  it was just great to play the followup to Morrowind (my favorite game) on my new computer.  And early on discovering the world of the game was fun. 

But I now know why people have been disappointed.  It is all the same.  I have ridden through most of the countryside and it does have some variation but (on the whole) it is all the same.   I have been to all the major towns and (on the whole) they are all the same. 

What  delighted me about Morrowind was the creative variation in all the different places.  The major towns were all very different and that made them so intiriguing to explore.   You could drop me in a town in Morrowind and I could just look around and tell you which town it was .    Drop me into most towns in Oblivion and I wouldn't have a clue where I was.   They all look the same.   And soon the countryside all begins to look the same.

But I will continue to play.  I am not yet in the main story so I need to know what that's about.  I am 50/50 now.  That is good enough for me to keep going.   Kay

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Yes. Agreed. Perfect, Kay. That is my problem with Oblivion in a nutshell. Its sameness. Where Morrowind was a bizarre, wonderful, varied world, Oblivion is oatmeal.

Everywhere I go I feel like I'm in the same place. I never felt that way in Morrowind. To tell the truth, I had a similar reaction to Fallout 3 (which I liked much more than Oblivion). I'm not sure what quality was added - or missing - from these games that Morrowind lacked or had, but there's a definite tangible difference.

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