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Jarrod's Fallout 3, Part 2
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Eeek, Scout, I thought you were a nice person!

 

Yeah, I saw his speech etc... didn't turn out too well for the salesman at the end!

 

Now I'm trundling around, looking for all of the Bobbleheads, which is a bit of fun.  Found some interesting areas, like the Deathclaw reserve.  Still hunting, though - got all but the Agility SPECIAL bobbleheads, and have about 3 or 4 skill ones yet to get.  Oh, and I've just figured out how to do 'reverse pickpocketing' properly, so I'm changing everyone's customes in Megaton.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Naw Jarrod, I'm a souless opportunists in games anymore.

Having fun with Point Lookout. It's like Fallout 3 goes horror adventure/rpg. I was getting endless freezes until I disabled AVG Free. That seems to have done the trick. (knock on wood...)

I found the evil book, took it to the evil lord of the manor for the caps then shot him and took the book back. [Image Can Not Be Found]Felt a tiny twinge of remorse then found something in the manor that unremorsed me +100.

Man the swamp dwellers are tough fights. It's like taking on PCP addicts.

This add-on is by far the best one I've played and I've played them all but the space station.

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Haha - you found something that unremorsed you +100...  in the cellar, I take it?  I followed him down there after I gave him the book, just to see what shinenegans he'd get up to.

 

And yeah, those rascally swamp dwellers are almost mutant-overlord hard.  I was using my stealth suit, so it was usually easy to take out the first...  then had to get pretty tricky to take out others (if they were in a group).

 

The space station one... is that Mothership Zeta?  It takes things in a completely different direction - so much so that it doesn't really feel like a continuation of the Fallout universe (IMVHO).  Enjoyable in its own right, it could easily have been a short, stand-alone game.  With some very good loot to grab.

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Point Lookout is a close second for me as a fave. I like The Pitt because of the ending, but PL is my favorite for enviornment and style. I don't know if you've done "the walk back" near the end there Scout, but one of the best parts in all the DLCs and main game there I think.

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At 4am for a number of nights I have thought about if I should just go out an buy the Classic or whatever edition of Fallout 3 that has all the addons and start all over and play again from the start. 

From listening to all of you,  I am intrigued.

My question to myself is do I really want to spend more time in this very desolate environment.    I have not reached an answer for myself yet.  

Fortunately,  I don't have to decide for a bit.   I have to kill a bunch of dragons in the Valley of the Mines in Gothic 2 before I can go anywhere.   Kay 

Imagine life with no hypothetical situations. 

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Yeah, I don't know how good Fallout 3 would be re-played.  Much of the fun is discovering stuff, and if you know most the story and the locations, I don't know if you'd get as much of a thrill out of it.

That said, I felt the same way about Morrowind initially too - and replayed it twice (once after I'd worked out all of the rules, and again when I'd left the game for a couple of years).  Now I only boot up Morrowind to stroll through familiar streets and see some of the familiar people and sights (damn I wish I could catch up with the NPC properly - "Hey, what's new with you?" questions would be cool - but the story doesn't go on if you don't load 'er up).

Still redecorating the populace of Megaton - might also do the same in Rivet City as well.  I wonder if there are any towns/cities that I've missed in my travels...  will have to do a search.

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kaythomas said:

At 4am for a number of nights I have thought about if I should just go out an buy the Classic or whatever edition of Fallout 3 that has all the addons and start all over and play again from the start. 

From listening to all of you,  I am intrigued.

My question to myself is do I really want to spend more time in this very desolate environment.    I have not reached an answer for myself yet.  

Fortunately,  I don't have to decide for a bit.   I have to kill a bunch of dragons in the Valley of the Mines in Gothic 2 before I can go anywhere.   Kay 


 

Kay, I'm a 4AM-er too, but that's not what I wanted to say.   I started FO3 on the 1st of December last year.  I only bought the base game – new RPG-er, would I even like it, would I be able to do it (hate shooting!)?  I thought I'd play for a month or 2, cuz folks said it was a longish game.  Loved it; bought the add-ons.   I paused and/or slowed my playing in the late winter/early spring waiting for my son to catch up (he never did, but he has little gaming time available).  I took a break after finishing all the add-ons to play Portal and start, then stop, a few other games that couldn't hold my attention. 

I got to thinking about Yap's penchant for modding, I thought "Why not?"  Long way to say, this game has loooonnnnngggg playing value if you mod.  I've stuck mostly to quest/adventure mods with a few building/location mods.  These have kept my interest.  It's been fun to continue play in a place I've become very familiar with.  I've become attached to Megaton, and my house there, and don't see the need for another one.  I'm part of the place.  The mods let me stay there doing the gaming/puzzling/adventuring that I so like.  When I finish my current set of quest mods I'll delete them and d/l another bunch and start the fun all over again.

"…desolate environment."  Sure, but you can even change that with mods. I think Yap is going to go for trees, other plants, and other stuff that will make the place look more alive.

If I were buying today, and in fact, having learned my lesson I bought the Orange Box to get all of Half Life 2, I'd get the GOTY edition and install it all at once, and also install mods early on.  This will give you a new FO3 experience from the one you had the last time, especially if you make different choices in the character creation process.  I say go for it.  You know help/support/cheerleading/etc. are here if you want them.

Thanks for letting me take up space in your thread, Jarrod.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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kay,

 

One nice thing about the Steel add-on is it lets you replay the ending and then continue on differently. You get a happy ending and then the opportunity to play all the add-ons as you please. I am guessing you will really like Point Lookout. You can jump back and forth though I'm not sure about the Pitt. Maybe someone can chime in on wether you can leave it or not before you finish it. The GOY is the only way to get the space station add-on I think.  

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Scout said:

kay,

 

. You can jump back and forth though I'm not sure about the Pitt. Maybe someone can chime in on wether you can leave it or not before you finish it. The GOY is the only way to get the space station add-on I think.  


 

Mothership Zeta is also available as DLC from Windows Live.  That's how I got mine.  $10 if I remember correctly.

I should be able to remember, but can't, if you can leave Pitt before you finish that main quest.  I do know that you can go back anytime after that.  There is a small repeatable quest there that you might want to do if you need some quick $$$.

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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Jarrod said:

Yeah, I don't know how good Fallout 3 would be re-played.  Much of the fun is discovering stuff, and if you know most the story and the locations, I don't know if you'd get as much of a thrill out of it.

That said, I felt the same way about Morrowind initially too - and replayed it twice (once after I'd worked out all of the rules, and again when I'd left the game for a couple of years).  Now I only boot up Morrowind to stroll through familiar streets and see some of the familiar people and sights (damn I wish I could catch up with the NPC properly - "Hey, what's new with you?" questions would be cool - but the story doesn't go on if you don't load 'er up).

Still redecorating the populace of Megaton - might also do the same in Rivet City as well.  I wonder if there are any towns/cities that I've missed in my travels...  will have to do a search.


 

What're you doing to them?  Are you giving them all Sexy Sleepwear, or Spring Bonnets?  Or custom undies?  Inquiring minds want to know.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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Everyone's welcome to take up space in this thread, Spike, especially you!

As Scout says, the Steel add-on let's you keep playing after the main quest is finished, which is one of the major pulls of the game as far as I'm concerned (same with Morrowind)!

Unfortunately it seems as though one of the determinating factors of people wearing gear is the armour value of the new gear.  The sexy sleepwear was the obvious choice to attire my female residents, however it has an armour value of 1, so no one ever wore them.

 

As I can't do anything custom on the PS3, I've resorted to slaves clothing (2 armour), Raider Ordnance Armour, Raider Paingiver Armour, and Raider Throwdown Armour.

 

Oh, and I've given Lucas Simms some Enclave Power Armour and a Outcast helmet (I didn't want to give him an Enclave helmet in case I mistook him for an actual Enclave, and shot him).  I want him to be damn near indestructible, both now and in case some expansion comes out where he has to defend something.

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I really want to move on to level 30, visit Point Lookout, and do a bunch of other neat stuff, but goddamn the price of Fallout 3 DLC on Xbox Live.

Damn it to hell, I say! And I really don't want to buy the game of the year edition for PC … unless Steam puts it at, like, $0.99 …

If being wrong's a crime I'm serving forever

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Does Xbox Live have sales every week like PSN?  Maybe it's just a case of biding your time until a discounted download pops up?  I breaks my heart to see anyone denied the full joys of FO3.

 

Ooh, maybe you could win the banner contest, and claim it as a prize from the Pike of Steer?

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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I've had Broken Steel/Point Lookout on my shelf for quite a while and finally got them installed. Grabbed Fawkes at Megaton and we are heading to the riverboat landing. Maybe Kay will have dismissed the dragons and join me. This should be fun. I've been wanting to revisit Fallout 3. I realize that I have forgotten most of the controls, so will be slow going for a bit.

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Pokey said:

I've had Broken Steel/Point Lookout on my shelf for quite a while and finally got them installed. Grabbed Fawkes

at Megaton and we are heading to the riverboat landing. Maybe Kay will have dismissed the dragons and join

me. This should be fun. I've been wanting to revisit Fallout 3. I realize that I have forgotten most of the controls,

so will be slow going for a bit.


 

Have fun Pokey.  If you have questions, or anything, just ask.

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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I was about ready to yell "help", but I finally got a handle on the VATS and stopped dying in the mansion. My guns stopped firing for a while and the game has crashed a few times. I don't remember having any trouble with the original game. The mansion is cleared out and I am looking for a big plant so I can get in the cathedral.

I missed it before, but finally saw your tip on getting in Raven Rock. Great, now I can get that bobblehead. Then I may go looking for the rest.

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Pokey said:

I missed it before, but finally saw your tip on getting in Raven Rock. Great, now I can get that bobblehead. Then I may go looking for the rest.


Being new to this RPG thing as I was, I was totally unfamiliar with console commands.  But several of them really helped.  The one for Raven Rock was one.  I also had trouble with my caravan merchants (Lucky, Crow, Hoff and Wolfgang) either disappearing or dying, and this was after I'd invested in 3 of them.  I'd use a "moveplayerto" command to find them.  If they were dead I'd command "resurrect".  A nifty thing that can't be done on XBox or PS3 - at least I'm guessin'.

I hope you're having fun again, Pokey.

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Oh, I wish I could resurrect people!  I've started 'reverse-pickpocketing' power armour on the caravan merchants I come across now, to help ensure their survival.

 

And I must've done something terribly wrong in Big Town - I went back there to check on everyone, and they're all gone.  A merchant on the road told me that they were all either dead or captured.  I taught them how to use their firearms, and armed them, so I don't know what happened there, but I feel a bit pissed off and guilty over it.  I think the superficial girl there had the hots for me, too.

 

One thing I haven't tried to do yet is to re-visit vault 101 - I don't even know if I can get back in there - but it will be good to see the place after I've 'grown up' a bit outside of it!

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Jarrod said:

Oh, I wish I could resurrect people!  I've started 'reverse-pickpocketing' power armour on the caravan merchants I come across now, to help ensure their survival.

 

And I must've done something terribly wrong in Big Town - I went back there to check on everyone, and they're all gone.  A merchant on the road told me that they were all either dead or captured.  I taught them how to use their firearms, and armed them, so I don't know what happened there, but I feel a bit pissed off and guilty over it.  I think the superficial girl there had the hots for me, too.

 

One thing I haven't tried to do yet is to re-visit vault 101 - I don't even know if I can get back in there - but it will be good to see the place after I've 'grown up' a bit outside of it!


Big Town:  I had a minor quest there to help them fight the Super Mutants.  The only one who died in my game was Red.  I replayed from a save to try to protect her, but I was trying so hard to save my own ass that the Mutants got her a second time.  I gave up and moved on.

Vault 101:  there is a quest to return there and help Amita (can't remember if that is her name, exactly).  It won't take long to complete that quest.

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I finished all the add-ons I have. I took the Explorer perk during the last level up and am now going around the map with Fawkes to check out the places I missed. Nothing earthshaking so far. Mostly the same building interior with mutants. I should return to Vault 101 and see if anything has changed. I might even look into a mod quest (omg...scout installes a mod). Fallout 3 is pretty fun to hang out in while I try to figure out what to play next. One thing I might look for is a mod to give Fawkes a few more lines of dialouge. Her endless looping five comments does wear on me. I was glad to have her during the final Steel battle though.

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