Toger, I've been meaning to ask you, and anyone else here with a Touch if you downloaded OS3.0, and if so, have you had any problems?  I've had several, the worst among them is overheating, which makes gaming a no-go for more than 10-15 minutes because when it gets hot, it slows, and slows, until it's impossible to play anything.  Apple says they are working on an update, but that it won't be released until OS3.1 in September.  Presumably with the new Touch.  That said, I am still in love, but with blinders removed.

If the rumors of a video camera, true mic, and other goodies are true, I'll be trying to figure out how to afford a 3rd gen in Sept.  But I won't jump for a couple of weeks - I'll want to see what 1st adopters think.  Are the heating/slowness problems solved?  We shall see.

And about your review, I apologize.  I saw it at the time, but because I have it installed, and partially played, I didn't read it, so didn't notice that you mentioned RTMI2.  I also wasn't interested in the game for iPod because I'd need stronger reading glasses - huge magnifying ones!

I've done various things to abate the heating and slow-down problems including removing enough content from the Touch so that I was only about 5GB full.  Crap, what's the point of having 16 GB if I can't use them?  I tried removing only music, or only videos (I'm addicted to Rick Steves travel videos), or only games.  No luck.  I restored.  I reset (holding down the power and home buttons simultaneously until the Apple logo appears) as suggested by someone in the Apple forums but that only took care of one small problem that I had on startup. Not only does it get hot enough to be uncomfortable if I put it on my leg while playing a game, but it also gets warmer during charging than it did.

I know there isn't any incompatibility with any programs because of my systematic sync-unsync tests.  At 11am on the day of the "upgrade" (degrade is more like it) all was working well.  I plugged it into the computer to get 3.0 and added no other content.  By 12noon, right after the upgrade I took it to the porch to check it out.  Hot, hot, hot.

Apple has done right by me on many machines large and small since Performa 180.  I am confident that this will be fixed in September.  But I am an unhappy camper in the meantime.

But wouldn't it be great to have a 64GB device?  Phone and Touch.

Spike-girl, no apology necessary. Really. If you haven't noticed, I like giving people a hard time. [Image Can Not Be Found] 

This is one of the things I like about this place because I do too.  I offended one of my daughter's friends on Facebook (Don't get me started on this FB thing.  I got coerced by daughter and, really, sometimes it's best to just give in).  The woman (38yrs.old) knows me.  Has been in my house.  And yet a tongue-in-cheek comment offended.  Get over yourself (her, not you Toger).

It's a tough life when your parent isn't bound by convention. [Image Can Not Be Found]

My 31yrs.-old-next-month thinks this is very cool.  My 38yr. old daughter sometimes thinks it's great, but often finds it just plain weird.  She has never played a video game of any kind, although she had ample opportunities.  She will never understand why I love them so.  Stick.

I wasn't interested in FB, but she pestered me for months and I kept saying no.  Then early this year she promised that she'd play Lexulous (Scrabble-like game) on FB with me if I joined.  I gave in, and about 1/2 way through our 1st game she got too busy to continue.  The dirty rat.