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Yapette
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So, have any of you replaced....nah, boxes are classic & can never be replaced......augmented a boxed version with a GoG.com digital version?

I'm Win7 64-bit all the way now and am loathe to install BG2+expansions and IWD1&2+expansions. Hell, even thinking about replaying Divine Divinity or rejoining Arcanum causes palpitations.

My penny-pinching ways say buying again what I already own is frivolous.

My better judgement says to consider all the headaches I will avoid.

My logical mind says storing a dozen digital games on a 3" flash drive is smart, lugging around kilos of disks & cardboard for years is not.

 

Gog.com is having a holiday sale. Now. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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:raises hand: (But then, was there ever any doubt?) [Image Can Not Be Found]

I've got both versions of Arcanum. I also have duplicates (digital & disc) of a couple of adventure games due to Steam sales. I'm considering buying Planescape: Torment and Baldur's Gate even though I already own the disc versions just to avoid having to move heavy plastic tubs full of games to locate them. And they're on sale. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Why of course I knew you bought digital duplicates.

I have it on good authority that you have also bought disk duplicates of games you already owned but had forgotten you did. Or the originals were so hopelessly lost in the bins that you never realized. [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found]

(Everyone reading: this is a tease...)

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Hey! Don't be giving away my secret shame! Although, I have to FEEL shame in order to have a secret (or known) shame. And pretty much everyone agrees that I have no shame. [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I thinkabout this all the time as well. So far the only games I've bought from GoG that I already own are the Might and Magic collection and Beyond Good and Evil. BGAE I own on the PS2 and don't ever really hook it up (or the TV for that matter) so it seemed a good idea to own a PC version, and with M&M, I got them cause they were on sale and I figured if I ever play any again, I can avoid the hassle of trying to get the old games to run through DosBox.

Which is kind of how I think of a "re-purchase" through GoG. Do I want to pay $5 and avoid the headache of running old Dos games on my modern machine, or do I save that money (for a coffee or sandwich? It's just $5...) and just deal with the install.

The thing is though, that I don't spend that much time on these games now a days. I think if anything, it's the "collector" om me insisting on having a digital version of something I love. I still think about Baldur's Gate all the time, despite having them all on disk too...

Just my two cents... or five bucks in this case.

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Also, they just put out another free download! Tyrian 2000. I've never even heard of it, but it's FREE!

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Dismissing Toger's opinion as superfluous in a thread about gaming frugalities ([Image Can Not Be Found])....(although she's an excellent not-to-be-missed playing partner).

Ok, Armand, how about this: digital versions of only those games that were DOS based?

Akin to your getting a PC version of BG&E.  In my opinion, a PC version is an entirely different animal than a PS2 version. You're off the hook in my book.

I have yet to mess with DosBox (however more user-friendly it has become over the years) & I hope to avoid it forever. A choice between learning DosBox & buying a replicate digital version is no choice at all. I'd buy a digital download in an eye's blink (sorry, Steerpike, is that a sensitive subject? [Image Can Not Be Found])

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Bwaa!

No, eye-blinking is not a sensitive topic. I find I do it almost 50 times a second these days, to focus on things. I really should have listened to Helmut in the Lasik advice thread.

 

I shamelessly re-buy digital copies. For me it's a sense of responsibility - if Bioshock is nine cents on Steam, it's irresponsible not to buy it. I'll be doing the same during the upcoming holiday sale. All I ever bought from GOG was Septerra Core and Planescape Torment (rebuy!), but I haven't actually played either.

 

There's no shame in digital augmentation. 

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I feel bad, almost like I cursed the operation. I'd just got my shiny star wand and crinkely bag of Ganges Rhino testes in the mail order and I had to try them. 🙁  sorry

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"There's no shame in digital augmentation."

I'm a one-eyed half-demon triple-E MILF. Meet me in the IF tram at midnight central time. I don't do flying mounts.

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DosBox is actually surprisingly easy to use (it may help if you actually used Dos back in the day... ohh the memories.)

On the wider question, I don't know. I have very limited funds, and the bevy of stupid-cheap sales that Steam, GoG, Impulse and the rest have lead me to spend money I had no intention of diverting to gaming. But these deals come up, and I think, "Well, this game is only such and such amount, I'd be stupid NOT to get it." Now I have a ton of games I've not spent nearly as much time on as when I'd pay full price for them at the store. It's a difficult issue in my mind.

And now that GoG is having their holiday sale, a part of me wants to rush out and get all the classics, including ones I own on disk like Septra Core or Planescape and so on. But I was looking at my catalog of GoG games, and realized I've only played one out of fourteen, The Longest Journey, which was a game I hadn't played in the past, and had wanted to try for many years.

So... I don't know. If you're REALLY itching to play some of the older games, than GoG may be a pleasant path to take, especially considering their current sale. If your just an obsessive fan-boy like me with little money and a psychological need to get these things... well I'm still working on that one.

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Ah, Armand, a man after my own heart (head): obsess, obsess, obsess. Which choice is the one & only truely correct one.

I'm looking at digital for playing the games I missed due to a late start in gaming (1999) and an adventure gamer at that. Plus HOTU's (Underdog's) ancient oldies forced me to learn how to get DOS games running. If I never face another game that requires massive conventional memory to load...comes on a cd so needs MSCDEX.EXE and OAKCDROM.SYS [Image Can Not Be Found].....plus sound drivers....and a mouse....I will game happily ever after.

I still have zips of BumbleBee's boot files (is there anyone out there who remember that?), just in case. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I don't know about BumbleBee's boot files, but as a youngun, I'd constantly edit my autoexec.bat and config.sys files, and make all sorts of boot disks just to get games to run on my 386. It was a constant struggle with that thing, but I still keep it around.

Sinse this discussion, I've picked up 3 more packages from GoG just because... well just because I guess. Realms of Arcana 1+2 (one package) and the 3rd one. Plus the Master of Orion 1+2 package. The total came out to about $10. Of course, now I'm gonna go back to playing Mass Effect 2, but I'm glad to have these games digitally. I have the two MOOs and the first Arcana on disk... though at least a few are on floppies.

What games were you thinking of getting Yap?

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For someone who never played the Master of Orion games, would they be playable today? I've glanced in their direction on GOG before but never been quite sure...

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That's a tough call. For me MOO2 is still the best space civ out there, but the graphics are definitely... hard on the eyes. The first one is brilliant and real fun in its own way. I first played it about 5-6 years ago on my old 386 PC (which I hooked up just for that) and had lots of fun with it. Very simple graphics, relatively simple gameplay, but still lots of fun.

Either way though, I think it's about $4 for the two of them right now, so if you wanted to check them out, this may be the time to do it. Just be prepared for some old school UIs and graphics. MOO3 is almost unplayable by comparison. I couldn't give you a specific reason why...

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Moo2 is entirely playable today and its UI holds up amazingly well. Lowres causes annoying scrolling in manual combat and combat/ship management bogs in the late game but it's a must play. It's one of my favorite games from any era and the only old one on the list I can happily play now without major frustration. I spent a month playing almost nothing else earlier this year!

Some races (or custom race trait picks) are much easier than others but all have their features and can play a win on the hardest settings.

Moo1 and the sister franchise Master of Magic haven't aged near as gracefully and Moo3 was always a disaster.

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Ouch Fink! Master of Magic is so still playable! I'd take it over MOO2 any day (by a slim margin.) I guess it's all subjective though. I played MoM as a youngster, so I'm sure that plays into my love of the game.

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I played all three at or close to release. MoM then was love it despite itself (boy did I! which made Elemental such a phooey), slowly scrolling over huge maps for almost every action was never fun and I can't put up with it now. Moo1 and particularly MoM have their charms--they're great games--but it's Moo2s controls which hold up. They did a great job given the limitations of the day.

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So, I bought:

Planescape - apparently, it's still installed on my machine from my last attempt. This time, I won't have to swap discs and I will finish!; Baldur's Gate I & II - checked my master list (which is seriously out of date) and I've got something called Baldur's Gate Chapters I & II (no idea what that means without digging it out); and finally Two Worlds Epic Edition (includes expansions) - I remember starting to play this on 360 but there were too many buttons to remember to do anything, plus it didn't include the expansion(s).

I haven't done any damage with Steam because the site's getting hammered, so I'll wait...

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My plan is based on buying games I might actually play in the next 12 months:

Baldur's Gate II (did the original require disk swapping?) for easy-peasy .exe vs. 5 disks, time saved to be spent adding fan-tweaks & mods.

Arcanum (GoG recently redid their version to better tolerate Win7 64-bit. I'd surely suffer similar problems with my disks).

Gabriel Knight 2 (third game I ever played & I recall, even after all these years, the nasty disk swapping when moving from location to location….and back again….and then again….). Want to replay for nostalgic reasons, if only for a night or two, bought to avoid disk swapping.

IWD2 and others I own on disks but will never get around to playing this year can wait for next year's holiday sale.

When I looked at Steam today it was loading ok but (for me) was so confusingly organized I wasn't sure which games are on sale for only 24 hrs & which are reduced until Jan. 2. The setup required too much paging, back & forthing which is probably why the site is being hammered.

 

Toger, although I finished the original Two Worlds (loved, loved the goofiness) I rebought the Epic Edition for ~ $2.13 when I needed to pad an Amazon order for free shipping. I want to try multiplayer…for kicks, not to fight. We could meet up! [Image Can Not Be Found]

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