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Dawn of Discovery (aka Anno 1404) [PC, DS, Wii]
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The PC version is like a siren's song for me and I can tell playing the DS version isn't going to scratch that itch. Guess I'll wait until the price drops somewhat - $50 is a tad much for a vanilla PC game. If the reviewers at Amazon have their way, that might happen sooner than expected. Much like Spore before it, Dawn of Discovery is getting dinged for its DRM and 3 installation limit. Granted, there are only nine reviews so far…

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Rock, Paper, Shotugn has posted their positiive thoughts. I caved yesterday and bought it. Gogamer has the import version (Anno 1404) selling for $35. That's much easier to swallow than $50. (Says the girl who will drop $60 on a desperately wanted console game) [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Stop it, stop it, stop it!  Right. This. Minute! [Image Can Not Be Found]

I have ongoing and currently playing more than mere mortals can manage (2x rpg, 1x rts, 3x adventure, 2x ds).

Neither want nor need to buy a game I will never start for months(years) on the chance I'll miss that GoGamer price!

Resist. [Image Can Not Be Found] Resist. [Image Can Not Be Found]

P.S. really enjoying Oblivion, continuously tweaking by adding & subtracting mods.

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You know you want to. Come to the dark side. Resistance is futile. [Image Can Not Be Found]

I simply wasn't happy with the DS version of Anno - it was annoying me - even though I was finally understanding the whole RTS “thing” by playing it. It really is a gateway game, but the fact that I cannot rotate the view coupled with trying to place buildings with the stylus all the while not moving the screen with the touch/drag mechanic taxed my limited patience and made me jump on it sooner than I expected.

I need to get back to Oblivion. I haven't played since the beginning of the month as other shiny things got my attention.

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DRM with three installs is the deal killer.

Two houses = two computers = two ISPs. Online activation, calling home or any such ugly behavior usually starts a chain of events: [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] [Image Can Not Be Found] Accompanied by copious amounts of screaming & swearing. None of which allows me to play the game.

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I forgot about your mutliple computers/abodes. Since I have no life and don't go anywhere that shouldn't be a problem for me.

:knock on wood:

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I didn't resist completely.

Amazingly, walmart.com has Dawn of Discovery (Wii) for $19.82. I'm going into my city building career via the back (easy) door. If the entire game plays more like a demo, even better. [Image Can Not Be Found]

In Settlers VI, I'm still receiving major guidance by a talking head on my screen. I'm hoping to play through every map, complete every campaign, with a loyal knight micro-managing my every move. My utter cluelessness so reminds me of grad level statistics classes. Invariably, first session we'd go around the room introducing ourselves. "They" had grand and glorious things to say about themselves & their backgrounds in statistics. Me?... I was satisfied if I could spit out my name without stuttering. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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To be honest, playing the DS version was what made me think I could tackle the "real deal". If I can successfully pull this off and not make a complete fool of myself playing this I'll be able to hold my head high and advance to the 18th century by re-installing Anno 1701. [Image Can Not Be Found]

But first, I want to bring the desert to life in the 15th century...

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Welp, while online shopping this past weekend, based on the assumption I will eventually achieve at least partial mastery, I also bought Anno 1701 Gold. [Image Can Not Be Found]

[Image Can Not Be Found] “We shall overcome….we shall overcome. We shall overcome some da-a-a-ay. [Image Can Not Be Found]
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We are strong women, Yap. We can conquer this RTS thing and make it do our bidding! Or, barring that bake cookies for it and plead for our lives.

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I've spent some more time in the 15th century and have somehow become the proud owner/provider of three islands. I know how the second one came about, but the third is something of a mystery...

See, some of the crazed rulers have it in their heads that they're launching a holy crusade in the name of the one true faith... so much are they enthralled by this that one of them built a bunch of ships for the fleet, then abandoned her island in order to take part in the crusade. I just happened to come by to see if I could borrow a cup of sugar (read: several tons of tools) and her minister was all atwitter about people leaving the island, they had no food, no industry, their children had run off to join the fleet, blah, blah, blah. And since it's always all about me, I ignored the whiny minister and sailed off into the sunset... Only to receive a barrage of messages about the state of things on crazy Marie-Therese's island only the narrator was calling it MY island. Well, hell and damnation! Now I have to save these backwards rubes?! So, I took a page from California's budget plan and started slashing the hell out of things they didn't need since they'd been reduced to peasants, again. When I left them for the night, the peasants were on the road to happy-town and only a couple of non-inhabited run-down peasant houses remained, which I'll probably demolish in the near future. I don't have to beg/buy tools anymore as I've got my own iron ore/smelter up and running. Now I just have to concentrate on getting my original group to progress to the next level... Oh yeah, and deliver whatever the hell it is that Guy Forcas wants this time. Too bad I can't build a house around him and take out all the windows and doors. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Toger, there is nothing more satisfying than raising the bejeezus out of taxes and burning down yokel housing. Don't give in to anyone who claims that "benevolence" is good rulership. You're handling things very well. I'm proud of you.

Life is the misery we endure between disappointments.

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Just remember that generally people prefer horizontality over verticality and all your peasants will be ok.

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Oddly enough, I have yet to increase the tax rates. I'm playing through the chapters (tutorials) before venturing out on my own in continuous mode, so the game has yet to introduce that feature just yet - even though I know it exists. I'm still semi-benevolent… for now.

I won't be able to play at all this weekend 'cause I'll be with friends. Damn this whole get-out-and-mingle-with-people construct. It's cutting into my ruling the world! This is when a netbook would be really handy… except for the part where I'm supposed to actually interact with my friends and not just occupy the guest-room while tapping on a keyboard. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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So, I finally got tired of the guided tour and decided to strike out on my own by restarting with a Continuous game. I left the defaults as they were with the exception of adding 3 AI players and weakened Corsairs - I am a weenie, after all. I've managed to build my little village into a thriving (most days)... um, village. Or is it now a town? I don't remember. Anyway, I've finally met the Sultan's Vizier and he's accepted my diplomatic mission of basically learning all I can from him in order to turn a tidy profit. I started up a little desert community - with Nomads. I chose a specific island for the ability to grow dates, spices and coffee. My real goal is the spices because the pesky Citizens back home aren't satisfied with just fish for food. Whine, whine, whine!

So, last night I've finished off an actual escort mission where my baby warship has to escort a heavily laden, barely above the waterline trade vessel out of the area. About halfway to our destination we were attacked by a warship! As the trade ship waddles through the waves, my ship heaves to, comes around and fires a broadside right at the Corsairs! Direct hit! Of course, that didn't immediately sink her, but it gave me a strategy - I'd sail ahead of the trade ship, let the Corsairs get within range, and fire a broadside. It was quite entertaining! Eventually, my ship prevailed and we continued on our way (the trade ship never stopped sailing)

Not long after that, as I was attempting to build up my little desert oasis, the village ran out of food and the Nomads began rioting in the streets! Carrying signs, shouting slogans the whole shebang. I did have a trade ship coming to the rescue; however, since it was such a small ship she wasn't carrying enough nor was she very fast. By the time she arrived at the island, the villages had burned half the town! And since I'd already run out of basic supplies, I couldn't build the necessary building for the fire brigade. Oops! So, I just watched it burn - giggling the entire time - then shut down before the game auto-saved. [Image Can Not Be Found]

I've got a little screenie from my original desert island to share. This isn't at the closest zoom but it gives an idea of how gorgeous this game is... even with my barely functioning vid card.

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I am so very, very impressed!You need to print that screen so that on down the road you can see how far you've come.

I'm almost as proud of you as if it'da been me. 

I am still playing the Wii for Weenies version, only my current weekday obsession with Oblivion means I play 0 hrs. M-F. By weekends I have forgotten more than what I learned the previous weekend. 2 steps -->, 3 steps <---.  I'm hoping the storyline is kinda the same in both pc/wii versions. First master the simplified, then add on features, graphics & options. My efforts are designed as if I were taking a class .... fun, recreation and casual aren't part of my syllabus. [Image Can Not Be Found]

(i will not publically admit that now I also own the beauticious pc version, at such a reduced price via ebay that I couln't convince myself not to buy).

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And we're back in business! (Steerpike [Image Can Not Be Found])

I knew I could convince you to come to the dark side, Yap. The storyline is somewhat different in the console version - you have the two brothers “competing” for their father's favor - but the manner in which the game leads you gently into the game's features are similar. In the PC version, you've got the gentle Lord Attenborough (you know me and names) who will offer suggestions. He works in that capacity in both the Continuous game and the tutorials; although in Continuous mode he merely suggests and doesn't hound you.

Let's see… when last we left my adventurers, my desert city was in flames. I'd killed the game before it auto-saved (which is handy as I sometimes get completely wrapped up in playing that I forget to save), so I was able to replay the last 30 minutes or so… completing the escort mission, then getting back to building up the desert island. Since I knew I'd run out of food - the Nomads do not eat fish like those wacky Occidentals, they require dates and goat's milk - I sent my fastest ship back to my main Northern island for wood, tools and stone while the newly gifted caravelle (from the Vizier) was sent to the Sultan's island for several tons of dates. While she lay at anchor in the Sultan's harbor taking on supplies, I took the opportunity and spent some of my honor points (I'd been building up my honor by doing good deeds for a few people - finding errant daughters and wayward knights; rescuing shipwrecked survivors; escorting/protecting the odd ship, etc) to acquire a nicer set of sails for faster travel, and more importantly, the seeds necessary to create the correct fertility to allow dates on my island. When I'd originally chosen this particular island, I'd been more interested in the growing of spices to appease the Citizens in the North never realizing that the Nomads would only eat dates. Oops! So, having them riot and burn the island was a lesson well learned.

This time, when the desert oasis ran out of food, I was ready for them. My first ship arrived from the Northern climes and off-loaded her supplies into the warehouse so I was able to build the fire station and put out the fires. He was certainly busy for a time as the villagers were still rampaging and shouting slogans due to there being no food in the warehouse. Just then, the heavily laden caravelle returned from the Sultan and saved the day! She dumped tons of dates into the warehouse and we planted the fertility seeds so that the island would be able to provide its own food. Nomads began moving back into the village, my treasury stopped hemorrhaging red ink, spices began to flow to the North and suddenly… my Citizens morphed into Patricians! (You can tell the devs are German, the Patricians look like Sinter Klaus as they wander the city in their red robes.)

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I have more pix, but they're on my box at home. I'll post them tonight. In the meantime, you can see what someone who knows what they're doing by gazing upon Glycerine's pix (from GamingTrend). In admiring his pix, he's moved most of his production (farms, tools, etc) to another island while the majority of his main island is devoted to his city. I read somewhere, possibly even that thread or gamerswithjobs.com, the reason for doing that is in case of disasters (which I have turned off) it's easier to recover. I may have to think on this scheme and maybe adapt… just for experimentation.

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My islands. Let me show you them…

My main island's town square before the arrival of the Patricians. That big tree in the upper left houses some witches. Seriously. I've already rescued and returned some shipwrecked people for them. They're kinda crazy…

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This is my burgeoning desert oasis with a small noria & marketplace off in the distance. The noria turns the desert into arable land. That out-of-place looking building on the left is the firehouse that saved my island the second time through the looting and pillaging of the hungry Nomads. They're all better now.

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I'd like to talk about taxes. Have you raised taxes?

There is no purpose in a game such as this unless the tax rate is... well, not crippling, but definitely debilitating.

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And how many toddlers have you enslaved to build your monuments to pride?

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