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Jen
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October 18, 2009 - 5:26 pm
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Today I upgraded my computer from 2 GB RAM to 4 GB RAM and got a shiny new Radeon HD 4850 1 GB video card. That card only barely fit in my computer! It's ginormous!

I am hoping the RAM upgrade will improve performance on all of my Adobe applications, which tend to bog down pretty badly when I have them all going at once. And I got the new video card just 'cause. I upgraded from an old 128 MB All-in-Wonder, so I'm sure I'll notice a performance boost when gaming. Now I go to investigate a Risen purchase...

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Wow!  4GB RAM and 1GB video...I guess you will be able to play just about any game you choose.  Go crazy, and have fun.

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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Color me jealous of your vid card!

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Risen should look beeoootiful.

I'm running it on a 4850 (512mb version) and a 4870 (1gb). No, not dual video cards....dual houses. [Image Can Not Be Found]

This game is all the fun I wish Oblivion had been. Except for my frequent combat deaths.

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Congrats, Jen! I'm at 4GB of memory, but still only 512 in my Radeon 4870. 4GB helps a lot when you have XP/Vista, but once you go to a true 64-bit OS (if you're not already)... holy cow, big prizes, especially with Adobe apps.

"Ofiicially," only Photoshop CS4 is a 64-bit app natively, but they all seem to run better on my Win7 RC 64-bit system. Enjoy!

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I ended up crashing my computer, hard. Reformat and reinstall [Image Can Not Be Found] Stupid, stupid me! I did not uninstall the old video card drivers before I put on the new ones, and the result was massive instability, BSOD (in Vista!), and inability to even start in safe mode. But all is well now, and I have downloaded Risen and look forward to trying it sometime in the indeterminate future.

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Upgrading. I need to do this.

Risen. I need to get this.

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The saga continues… Boy, did I ever open up a can of worms!

The video card came with a DVI to VGA converter, which works great, but it doesn't carry the sound signal. I use an HDTV for my monitor, and the HDMI cables for regular TV carry both video and audio for the cable box and Blu-Ray player, etc. I went to my trusty local geek store and got a DVI to HDMI cable, and the video was shit and still no audio. I took it back the next day (today), and the geek-in-residence had never heard of a video card that also outputs audio, and I was all like, “I swear! It has HD audio!” and the guy looked at me like I was some fat stupid middle-aged bitch [Image Can Not Be Found] So I turned to my friend Google and found out that I need the converter that comes with the video card. Only. Well, my video card came with a DVI to VGA converter, not a DVI to HDMI converter (what's with all the initials, huh?), and on the box it said that converter came with “selected models only.” Mine wasn't “selected.” So I had to order the right converter from Newegg.com. And now I wait… [Image Can Not Be Found] That's okay, though, I'm off to party at Orb's house far, far away anyway, and maybe my thingie will be here when I get back. And then hopefully it will work.

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And this is why I hate upgrading.

Say "hi!' to Orb for us. The weather should be great this weekend.

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Say hi to Orb.

Yes, as toger puts it, "And this is why I hate upgrading."

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I love upgrading. Here's my list over the  years. A lot of coin, really.

CPUs/Systems

Pentium 75, Sept 1995 $3000
Upgrade to Pentium 133 CPU, Spring 1996
additional 800Meg Hard drive. spring 1996

full pentium 233 system fall 1996/Spring 1997
Abit mobo/Celeron 500 chip + Ram ~2000
AMD 1600+ CPU and ASUS mobo + memory ~2001
Intel 3200 Pentium 4  + Asus mobo + memory ~2003
AMD 3800+ XP  + Asus mobo  + 2G memory ~2006
AMD 3800+ XP X2 (from pal) ~2007

Video cards
Vid card to 2Meg 2D card, ~late 1996
3dfx card Voodoo 1 card. Fall 1997
NVidia Ti4200 ~1999
AMD 9600 pro graphics card. ~2002
ATI x800XL graphics card.  ~2004
NVIdia 7900 GT.  ~2006
EVGA 8800GT  ~2008

Various
Diamond Monster MX300 Audio card
Sound Blaster 5.1 2002
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Value ~2006
Hard drives of 565Meg, 800Meg, 3 Gig, 13 Gig, 20 Gig, and several of 80-120 Gig.
various and assorted networking cards.
various cd rom drives.

Four joysticks

One very expensive driving wheel.

OCZ 450 Watt power supply

displays
Mitsubishi 19" CRT 1998
Samsung 19" flatscreen monitor 2007

OS
Win 95 Back in the day, you used to get a complete OS disk with a new system.
Win 98
Win ME
Win XP

Of all of this, there was one RAM chip where the IC was mounted crookedly. The rest has worked without fail. There was a time when I spent days in confusion because I failed to install chipset drivers from a motherboard CD so AGP acceleration and onboard sound didn't work. Then another time in drunken confusion I deleted NTLDR. Once I bought ECC RAM by mistake and it was slow. The rate of progress has slowed somewhat recently but parts are incredibly cheap these days and it seems a modern quad core chip at anything > 3GHz should last for several years.

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I don't even want to think about how much money I've spent over the years on upgrades.  But I guess as I bought my first pc in 1982, it's not hard to figure….let's see, maybe, conservatively, $2k every 2 years, duh that's $k per year…$27k!  That's not so much for 27 years of great memories.

I will have regrets when I die, I'm sure, but the time I spent gaming will not be among them.

Except maybe for that 8 bit game about sailing the world.

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Steerpike
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Yeah, I don't dare contemplate how much money I've spent on computer upgrades. I just tell myself that it must be worth it if it makes me happy. And there's usually the added cost of part repair/replacement, becuase I have a long and storied history of cracking processor cores and putting heatsinks in poorly.

Good luck with the new adapter Jen. What a headache!

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Scout
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Parts are so cheap compared to the past and still I don't upgrade unless I absolutely have to. Right now I haven't upgraded in almost 4 years now. Before that it was something like 6 or 7 years. Not sure I'll make it another 2 or 3 years though. Lucky me... I have mounds of bills to blunt the temptation. 

That was a great the trip down memory land, Helmut. I'm impressed you could remember that far back. I do remember upgrading from 386 to a blistering 486 then it sort of blurs out.

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Wow Ernest, that's impressive. Although I'd probably upgrade those estimates in the early '80s at least.

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Jen
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I remember my first upgrade was to a 100MB hard drive. I thought there was no way I'd ever use up all that disk space!

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Hah hah hah! I've been there, Jen. I remember I got a ~200 GB drive for my first computer and installed Stacker on it. When Gigabyte drives came out I trotted out to buy one and the guy said, "I can't sell you one in good conscience; you can get a 1.2 GB drive for ten dollars more."

I felt like I'd won the lottery!

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Jen, tell Orb all of us say 'hi!' [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Jen said:

I remember my first upgrade was to a 100MB hard drive. I thought there was no way I'd ever use up all that disk space!


You want scary I just bought a 2 TB hard drive.  Meanwhile I don't even have time to install games, much less play them.  HAHA oh boy.

What's funny is, my dad died when I was very very young.  Well that's not the funny part.  But he was a TV repairman.  And now I've realized that I enjoy taking apart computers and tinkering with them–essentially doing the same thing he did with those old TVs.  This was back before TVs seemed to become disposables.  Anyhow I'm no expert but when I open one up and take everything out and put it back in without any parts left over it makes me imagine what he must have felt like.  And when Ben crawls into my lap and sticks his little Bob the Builder screwdriver into a hard drive slot and says “let's see what's the problem here” it does flash me back to being 4 years old and sitting next to my dad at his work bench.

Aww you guys see now one of the reasons why my little boy makes me weep?  He reminds me of so many things.  In even that tiny way he's given me my dad back.

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Upgrades suck! I used my computer on Friday, all was working well, and then I left it on and did other stuff for some days. I came back to get a stuffing recipe yesterday morning, and on the screen was a message "disk read failure, press ctrl-alt-del to reboot." I did that, and nothing happened. So I turned it off, turned it back on, and absolutely nothing. Dead in the water. No BIOS, even. I said screw it and went out and got a whole new computer.

I got a Gateway gaming computer, with a 1750-GB nVidia graphics card, 1 TB disk, 8 GB RAM, Intel quad processor. Not quite top-of-the-line, but close enough. It's pretty sweet! I thought I would miss my fancy Antec quiet case, but this computer makes hardly any noise anyway even with its cheap sheet-metal enclosure. The only problem with buying a computer at the store is all of the shit that comes preinstalled, but I knew that going in and bought Windows 7 at the same time.

It also has these disk enclosures that let me put in my old hard drives into plastic caddies, and now I can put them in and pull them out at will through the front of the computer. Not quite hot-swappable because the computer has to be off, but nice nonetheless. The problem is that the Windows 7 install adds a little 100MB recovery partition, and it ate my most recent data disk. The whole 500GB! [Image Can Not Be Found]I bought a file recovery software that oughta retrieve most if not all of my files. I wish those Microsoft bastards had let me choose where to put this. [Image Can Not Be Found]

So the upshot is, I am all done being a computer hardware do-it-yourselfer. This one oughta last me for at least five or six years, and then I'll just go buy another one. I am all excited to play an actual game!

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