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I played WoW from first beg to be safety net from FFC until a couple months ago. Trying to convince myself to play the expansion but I am burnt out, so a call to arms! Come play with Finkbug. It'll be fun, I swear. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Two 80s, some 70+, and a grab bag of low Alliance on Shadow Council US (RP-PvE). Horde on Trollbane US (PvE), two 80s and assorted lowbies guilded with nice folk. Happy to play low levels right now; won't full time when Cataclysm hits but leveling is stupid fast these days, and if I recruit-a-friend even quicker. If you've played the game before, a lot has changed. Far easier to play. There's still grinding--it's an MMO--but the changes were mostly aimed at getting casual players to the good stuff. If you've never played, happy to guide ya'll and switch in my Big Guns as needed.

The expansion will totally change the gameworld, so now's the time to see the old stuff. You know you want to! [Image Can Not Be Found] There's a reason it's the monster MMO: it's one of the best games ever made.

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Fink, I moved over to new server Sisters of Elune when Shadow Council offered the choice. Since then took 18 mos. break, returned for 3 months, currently on break since (maybe?) March. Never take the game seriously, no grouping, no dungeons/instances/battlegrounds (since that time way back when we & Ernest took almost 5 hrs to clear Dead Mines. Never again!), play to explore new areas & don't care a whit about gear or achievements (got my degrees in RL, virtual means nothing to me).

My plan was to explore all Horde areas before the Cataclysm but my heart wasn't in it enough to keep playing. Plan #2 is return a year post Cataclysm when the game world clears out somewhat.

Stalled & parked (some for years):

Alliance:

76 Hunter (want Spirit Beast, baaad, the cat one, but so long since I tamed that if I ever saw one, I'd freeze & mess up)

62ish DK

49ish Warlock

33ish Druid (or is she a Shaman? [Image Can Not Be Found])

Horde parked for 3+ years:

43ish Hunter

25ish Hunter

So, yes I do have some experience. No, I'm not ready to return. The learning curve is what interests me but since so much will be changing, my lazy brain refuses to learn what will only last another two months.

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That Deadmines put me off instances for a very long time. It was fun in group suffering, but my takeaway was grouping was a giant pain in the ass. Once I got back on the horse I had oodles of fun. Kara bingocards (4B disc priest fell off the ledge, 23A Finkbug got lost), Naxx weeklies nekkid, Hakkar blood curse tag. Making a guild leader cry and quit the game.

The big class revamps will go live soon, well before the expansion, so it's the best time to rejoin. Not that I've forgiven you, Yap, for a) hooking me, and b) abandoning me on an RP server. [Image Can Not Be Found] The login wait times cleared days after you left. I still tell players the tale of your pushback when a player finally hit on you, though I may have embellished it rather a lot in the retellings. A wee bit.

When those spirit beasts were added I may have hung out in the zones when unable to sleep, and killed & skinned to infuriate all eight zillion hunters farming 'em. Bad, bad mage. I think my hunter does still have the glitch worgen pet that got hotpatch fixed.

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Reading people discussing WOW amongst themselves is like intercepting alien radio broadcasts. It's cool to listen to though I haven't got a bloody clue as to what they are talking about. Some sort of group activity, like bowling I think.

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I'll try to avoid going back to WoW for as long as possible.

 

Had an 80 Human Mage, about 6 other mid-to-high 70s (Tauren Druid, Draenei Shamie, Draenei Pally, Night Elf DK, Troll Rogue, Dwarf Hunter) - but haven't played since I bought my PS3.

 

Unfortunately addicted both of my parents (and my mother's best friend), who play on Shadowsong.  My father is a pretty serious grinder.  Only really did instances with them, although I did a fair bit of PvP.  They're still on Shadowsong, both as Horde and Alliance, and would be happy to help out, if anyone played there (and I'd be happy to make introductions).

 

I got the deluxe versions of both previous expansions, but am glad I got out when I did!

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Scout said:

Reading people discussing WOW amongst themselves is like intercepting alien radio broadcasts. It's cool to listen to though I haven't got a bloody clue as to what they are talking about. Some sort of group activity, like bowling I think.


It's pretty much a superset of Guild Wars, except for the NPCs to hire. They're not interchangeable and I love both but over time they bled into the others' territory. GW became an MMO, sorta, and WoW became casual and solo friendly, mostly. A recruit-a-friend WoW character could be half max level in a few hours if really pushed.

My lonely max level pairs are mage & shaman. Was mostly fishing for interest to finally force myself to try healing. Keep making characters that can heal and never, ever doing it. Too chicken!

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No, yeah, I've got a full plate at the minute so I wouldn't be a good candidate.

I remember reading forums for GW on builds and even though I had played several dozen hours I couldn not follow the threads. It's like a perverted form of math that just bounces right off.

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Fink, if you'd like to virtually say hello, maybe I'll come by your server in a few days.

 

I had renewed my account this summer for the first time since early 2008 because I was playing with a friend and some of his family, but surely enough they all slowly fell off, and I've found myself logged into WoW all of two hours over the past two months maybe ... a nice waste of my subscription dollars. It ends on Oct 25 and I have no plans to renew, but I'll come by that server and drop you a line anyway!

 

I have a lot of fond WoW memories ... I so loved this game during its initial three months of server crashing, lag, and all that other fun. I would like to see it all post-Cataclysm as well, but for now, there's just no time (is there ever?)

I think I have "quit"/cancelled WoW 4 times now.

If being wrong's a crime I'm serving forever

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My account is currently lapsed for the first time since I started playing. Was planning to wait for next month to re-up but I'll check how many unpaid bills I have before the 25th. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Looking back at my oodles of time with WoW, at least half my favorite videogame moments were in it. Those ohshitshitFUCK --> helpless laughter experiences aren't unique to it but there've been many.

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Well, apparently the world has been torn asunder. Or something like that.

 

I haven't done any exploring yet, but I will confess that I found the Cataclysm intro cinematic to be one of Blizzard's weakest ever; it wasn't as graphically innovating as they typically are and it had rather awful narration by Deathwing himself; he looks badass but sounds like a tool trying to imitate The Epic Movie Trailer Voice Guy. (Admittedly I love doing that myself.)

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I've checked out some of it vicariously through my parents' accounts and videos on the internet.  I don't know if it's a good thing or not, yet.  Would be neat if you could go back to the old places again in the Caverns of Time or something, as I know there were a lot of people who didn't want things to change.

 

When they try to kill off or change any major comic book hero, they usually bow to public pressure and reinstate them as they were.  Wonder if Blizz will do that if there is public outcry over the changes.  Some people will feel that it is not the same game they are used to, and will be turned off by it, methnks.  But I guess when you have umpteen millions playing the game, it doesn't matter if you lose 0.1%, you still make a bazillion dollars each month.

 

So far, the Cataclysm changes aren't enough to pull me back into the fold.  Still, let us know what you think about what they've done xtal, when you've finished romping around the country side.

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I grabbed the ten day Cat trial. So far I've only been trying to sort out old add ons (I used dozens) and poked my head in to check if my guilds were still around. Nope. [Image Can Not Be Found] The game still has its weird mix of hideous and gorgeous visuals and the client still runs like a hog in a wallow.

It was fun to get whispers

With the guilds gone much of the incentive to buy is gone. Playing alone or re-entering the painful hunt for a guild of competent non-assholes is not appealing. A friend recently got hooked on the game...on EU servers. He was a long time WoW hater but now has that new-convert Happy Smell. So adorable. It'd be fun to romp with him but rebuying everything is not happening.

[Image Can Not Be Found]

Anyway... go the nine days remaining. If anyone's playing US I'll reroll and come say hi. I want an excuse to buy Cat.

 

Loading all my old toons to get them back into the Armory was a riot. Current max level players ran over to stare at the gear, much of it no longer available. Where did you get that? Lich King invasion event. That?  BC world boss. How'd you turn into a dragon whelp and breathe fire?  Made a disguise to buy from a merchant hidden in BC + a trinket from vanilla Stratholme quest.

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Zerodogg followed through on his threat and bought me the first three chunks of WoW EU. The dork! [Image Can Not Be Found][Image Can Not Be Found]

If anyone's playing on EU servers give a hollar. We're on Magtheridon PvE (I'm Frippery, he's Arderath) but I'll happily pop over to your home to annoy, erm, say hi. Yeah, say hi.

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I'm still on Kael'Thas in that idiotically-named guild, if you ever want to say hello.  🙂

Also have old toons on Hyjal but don't go on there anymore.

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Evil Zerodogg.

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Well, my WoW account got hacked and then life issues popped up and I burned out and ran out and just didn't want to deal with the whole mess.  Didn't deal with life well either but now I am back on track and my activate my WoW account again. Might be fun to play again with others here.

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Mixed feelings on the post-Cataclysm WoW but I'm on the cusp of again being fully hooked. Going to Elitistjerks to see current optimal raid builds was a bad sign.

Yesterday I joined a very casual guild of grown up folk. I've not managed to offend (yet) and my gags are getting laughs so I'm obviously a fan. "ty mailbox for having gold inside your happy place" drew a spit take from one member. He's my favorite. Next achievement: find a way to make him my mount.

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Since the last post I managed to offend one member. Ah well, knew it was coming.

I'm still chewing over a big write up of my thoughts on MMOs but here's some of the raw thinking.

 

WoW is currently a Frankenstein and the stitches may as well have quest item sparkles on them. Keep in mind there's much--most--of the current game I've not yet seen.

Setting aside PvP (player vs player), which is an enormous exclusion, there seem to be three or four types of MMO players with some overlap. I don't have snappy Friendman-esque coinages to tie to everything in sight. (Am I the only one wanting to smother him with a pillow?)

1) Initial impression people who keep making new characters to see the early content. These play MMOs as a single player RPG and each reroll is a new little game. Or they do one of the starts once and done.

2) "Serious" players (my rant about the word casual... for another time) who get hooked and play a game through its bulk and may or may not do the end game. They may or may not move on to another game later. These tend be the ones who yell "I'm quitting WoW for X"...and are back weeks later.

3) Folk playing every MMO released, like our resident Tap guy. For them, MMO as a category, not a specific game, IS gaming.

4) People who push through the content as quickly as possible to reach the end game and couldn't care less about the earlier details.

I'm firmly a number two [pause for laughter] and this colors all my thinking. If the MMO isn't good from start to ever extending end [pause for laughter] I'm not going to bother. If I'm plunking down 30, 40, 50 bucks for an RPG I'll do it on an inherently more complete, intentionally self-contained RPG than the MMO version of same. And I write this as a by nature anti-social MMO player. I join guilds, I chatter with folk, but until end game I almost always PLAY solo.

 

Early impressions of MMOs are useless, except for spying glaring problems, for those not in camp 1 or 3. There's simply no way to judge the longer term middle-meat [pause for laugh] and particularly the end game.

And that's the weird place WoW is now. The two new race start experiences give a great first impression. They'll review amazingly well. On rails with just enough illusion of freedom. They're single player chunks.

The phasing (player does stuff, forever changes that player's gameworld) in later zones is widely varied. It's what many have always wanted in an MMO but it begs the question: do you want a group world or not? Redridge, always the game's worst zone, is now a rail ride of A-Team, Contra, and Rambo gags. It is was amusing (I was exhausted by all the pop culture references but there was one sight gag that made me laugh aloud in shocked surprise) but would I ever want to do it again? Is this how you make your game sticky instead of just getting the 1 and 3?

Phasing is also a technical mess. Quests break--whole zones can break--if you dare do stuff out of order. You know, muck around in an MMO. Explore, discover. Farm even. While I don't want to be forced to farm, JRPGs can screw off and die, there's a certain insomniac itch I get scratched by barely consciously parking on a nifty pocket of high value critters. Oops, turned in a quest and they're all gone forever. Yup, I'm nuts. Shockers.

The disjunction between phased and on phased is also jarring. Old chunk old chunk ack even the sky changes new chunk old chunk as you fly over. Looking squarely at you Westfall. That'd be the stitches showing but it's incredibly jarring even for me, and I'm not an immersion guy.

Some zones are barely phased, too (more stitches on a broader scale) so it's jarring to go from rails to open and back again.

What do people want from an MMO? Millions of dollars spent making a great doll creator opening? I've an ever sinking feeling about the Star Wars MMO. All voiced dialog! plays like a real RPG! Great, so make an RPG instead. MMOs are different. What makes WoW sticky like burst buboes is different.

 

Ramble over and out

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Lest it seem I was slagging types of play other than my own, the half-formed idea is that for long term survival a susbscription MMO has to hold on to #2 & #4. Get those glued to their subscription with a meaty middle to wander in--many times, which is my worry about the rail zones--and a deep endgame or the whole enterprise fizzles. There won't be support to create new stuff and, thus, a returning migratory flock of #1 & #3.

My thesis is WoW's success directly correlates to offering plenty for all four player archetypes but that it can only do so with a backbone of #2 (me).

 

Cataclysm broke a lot of the casual (defined temporarily as those using in-game directional & quest aids, and no external sources or mods) pointers. It'll get cleaned up eventually but some of examples are downright sloppy; Blizzard doesn't normally make these mistakes.

Late Western Plaguelands -> all of Eastern Plaguelands is a great middle ground. It's heavily directed, with Bioware style bantering companions, but not on rails like Redridge.

 

Playing in a guild run by Scandinavians and populated by South Africans, Brits, and Russians has been enormously fun. Slaying idiom is more of a challenge than any boss fight. If you all find me incomprehensible, imagine the forty year old Russian woman playing to improve her English.

She's great. Sent me a private message, "Your English is beetuful". I figured she didn't know I was a native speaker and tried to correct her. "No. I do not know how to say. You combine words new ways like I do Russian. You make funny with the dark."

It's the best compliment I've ever received. I was truly honored. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Interesting read, Fink.

I'm clearly #1 in WoW if one doesn't notice the stalled-for-years alts ranging from lvl 42 thru 76.

However, seeing as I've played from weeks-to-months maybe ten other MMOs, that also makes me #3.

Appreciated your descriptions of regions. I had heard Redridge was "improved" but on my flyover I didn't see anything worthy of dismount. Same over Westfall (although I couldn't miss the new Keep in progress). Realistically, sky views can only see the most obvious of physical changes like across Kalimdor.

Nuts, your write up offers enough tantilizing tidbits to draw me back - someday - to experience changes I obviously missed in a ten day trial. Mostly due to the fact that I did nothing more during those playdays than level a wogan to (maybe) 11 and a goblin to (maybe) 9 plus flyovers.  #1 [Image Can Not Be Found]

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