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Yapette
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Whenever I finish Oblivion, I'm moving back to Vvardenfell via a clean install and 'leventy hundred mods. Never played either expansion and with a mind like a sieve, I've probably forgotten most of MW proper anyway. Plus, MW was my first rpg so I'm guessing the game will progress differently.

Anyone who wants to join is welcome....circle a date sometime in Sept. I'll be using mods based on this guy's site. With 1000s of mods, it becomes overwhelming to plow through the chaff and many I previously installed from GoneGold's MW-DVD are out of date.

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I'm now level 2 and have made it to the Priory. I'm torn between running immediately off to Kvatch or doing some of the other quests in my list.

I've joined the Mage's Guild, which is odd considering I'm not playing a mage. I think it had to do with how friendly they were in the Mage's Guild in Chorrol... well, that and the head guy was actually in the guildhall at that moment in time and I didn't have to hunt him down.

I'm absolutely horrendous at fighting in this game. Maybe I should have chosen a mage...[Image Can Not Be Found]

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Do you have an Easy slider? You can guess that mine is hugging the left margin.

All I do is left mouse button --> whack! Also assigned casting a spell to right mouse button (which you can't do [Image Can Not Be Found]). I don't block or dodge or anything but whack. What I miss is the ability to target. My whacks hit both innocents & friendlies, pissing them off no end (unless they die).

Last night a %$#@ priest stole my freebie horse! I'm running a mod called Tamriel Travelers that adds wandering npcs along the roadways. The horse was waiting on the path, a holy man came up over the hill, walked directly to my horse, mounted up and rode away!

His conversation topics didn't include, "What in hell are you doing?," and he wouldn't dismount. After walking all the way to Bruma, my horse wasn't in the stable. Too bad I haven't installed the mod "Dude Where's My Horse?" which is designed to pinpoint lost nags on your map. Tonight I'll visit the Priory...if no horse, I may give up riding for good.

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I can hot key things, it's just that I need to remember which point on my d-pad is for what item. When someone or something is whacking the hell outta me, I get just a tad stupid and end up blocking when I want to smack. It's a sad state of affairs, believe me. [Image Can Not Be Found]

:Am I playing on easy?: um... you know, I don't know. I don't remember if that came up when I initially started out. Guess I'll do a little digging around and find out.

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To continue my Equestrian Adventures: after teleporting to Chorrol, a message popped up that my horse was in the stable. I checked, it was.

Later, after finishing my business in town, I returned to the stable to get my horse. Unbelievable! Yet another npc, this time un-named ("Traveler"), was already mounted on my horse. She wished me good day and rode away! 

This means War! [Image Can Not Be Found] When I finally get a chance to ride, I'm going to stash the horse in a secret hideout & see what happens. Maybe way up the mountain in the stable at that place we bring Martin (whenever I get around to getting him, that is).

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Yapette said:

Whenever I finish Oblivion, I'm moving back to Vvardenfell via a clean install and 'leventy hundred mods. Never played either expansion and with a mind like a sieve, I've probably forgotten most of MW proper anyway. Plus, MW was my first rpg so I'm guessing the game will progress differently.

Anyone who wants to join is welcome….circle a date sometime in Sept.


I might possibly join you, Yap.   Morrowind was my first RPG also and I didn't have a clue about anything starting with how to  build and develop a character.  So I just stumbled through the game and somehow got to the end.   But I was excited by RPGs.   A number of people on this board told me that Morrowind was sort of at the top of what RPGs could be and I might be dissappointed with others.   And they were right.  

But like you I have a memory like a sieve and I also now better understand how to approach and play RPGs so I might give it a shot.   I'll have to see what's up then.  And also if I can get it to load on Vista.   Kay 

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I am moving along.   I went out and got some experience,  made some money, joined some guilds, upped my levels.  At level 3, I went back to Kvach and closed the gate and helped retake the castle.   

I am now  at level 5 and balancing working on the main quest and other quests: 

I am making a real effort with the Mage's Guild but I still have one difficult task to do before I have all of my recommendations to get access to the Arcane University.

I think I will do not much with  Fighter's Guild

I stumbled into the Dark Brotherhood and will pursue this.  It intrigues me.  I didn't do anything with these people in Morrowind.

I have an opening to join the Thieve's Guild  but haven't decided yet.   I mean how much can a girl do.

Anyway.  After getting over my initial severe disappointment that this isn't another Morrowind,  I am enjoying it for what it is.  And for someone with so litte experience with and understanding of RPGs,  I think this may be a great game for me to develop my RPG ability.    So right now I have raised my assessment of Oblivion to 65 positive and 35 negative.   Ask me tomorrow and I may have a new ratio.

Kay

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Kay, have you tried Planescape: Torment? It's a little old these days, but if you want an RPG that can stand up to Morrowind, that's it. The only other I can think of that matches Morrowind in sheer perfection is Knights of the Old Republic, which you should also try if you haven't.

Yap, I'm thinking you need a brand. You know, a heated metal thing, to brand your horses with something like "Keep your grubby paws off my horse, NPC" or a similar threatening message. I hate the horse riding in Oblivion, so I'm able to dodge such things completely.

I've been falling way behind the rest of you; I'm still in Chorrol, just finished the Cloud Top mission. I need to do a bit more leveling, then it's off to Kvatch for me.

Life is the misery we endure between disappointments.

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Steerpike, never fear about falling too far behind. I just reached lvl 3, haven't attempted Coud Top, and can't play again until I'm back at my home computer on Sunday. Or Monday. Then I'm going to Kvatch despite being newbie 3. Without some direction (ie, via the main quest) I'm suffering perpetual drift. Myriad pending quests overwhelm me such that I can't prioritize, yet continue to accept every one offered. Little questing, aimless wandering. By foot, as I too dislike riding in this game. I complain about horse theft on principle rather than actually missing the, you know, actual riding. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Kay, would love to have you play with me come Fall. I'm curious how MMMW (Massively Modded Morrowind) will hold up after a recent play through Oblivion.

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I always fall behind in group play, so never fear you're too far behind. I'm usually the last to finish:

Like Yap, I've got a bunch of quests stacked up, including the main quest, and I just find myself wandering about looking at things. I've sort of decided to take everyone's advice and do Kvatch before racking up too many levels. At the moment, I'm still level 2 and I am in Kvatch. Tried to get Martin to just leave everyone behind but he wasn't having any of it. (goody-two shoes) I actually went through the Oblivion gate prior to talking to Martin, but didn't think I belonged there just yet. Since Martin won't leave until I close the gate, I'm forced to go back.

Riding the horse is okay - certainly faster than walking - but the controls are odd and the game won't let me ride through towns. I rode to Skingrad(?) and couldn't figure out how to ride the horse to the other side of town to continue on to Kvatch. I ended up quick travelling instead.

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Toger,  I like Yap approach fighting in a simplistic way.  Slash, slash, slash.   No blocking for me.  I don't even know how to block or what it is.   That is too complicated.  But as an Elf with great marksman potential,  I try first to avoid conflict by sneaking around and taking "things" out with my bow and arrow.    One of the nice things about some of these games is that there are many different styles of playing that can work.   kay

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Steerpike said:

Kay, have you tried Planescape: Torment? It's a little old these days, but if you want an RPG that can stand up to Morrowind, that's it. The only other I can think of that matches Morrowind in sheer perfection is Knights of the Old Republic, which you should also try if you haven't.


Steerpike,   Thank you for reminding me of Planescape Torment.   I have heard much positive about this game including (I think) your inclusion of it on your list of games that didn't get enough attention and also Scout often suggesting it to me.

I had been planning to play Planescape Torment  but with my new computer aand Vista (64 bits) I can't play most GameTap 32 bit.    And now that GameTap has launched their new site,  I can't get it to work at all for me.   I am in an endless loop of sign it,  try to download a game, and have to sign in again and then get stuck in a transfer to another area that never happens.   So for now I have given up on GameTap despite the fact that they billed my credit card in April for another year  membership.   One day I will have to deal with alll of this but it is not today.

But to get back to Planescape Torment.  After you brought it to my attention again,   I went to Amazon and bought one from one of their "used but good condition" vendor's.  I think PT may be turning into a classic.  The prices were really  inflated.  I bought the cheapest on they had listed at $55.  I sure hope I can get it to play on my computer with Vista.  But if not I can kick myself around a little more about how long it took me to get out of adventure games and into other genres.

Otherwise, life is good.   Kay

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I've broken the siege at Kvatch and now have Martin in tow. Of course, the lead knight at Kvatch thinks I'm a god and wants me to stay and help take the castle. These people just take and take and take. Do they care about me and my needs at all? [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I've tried for three damn days to rescue Kvatch. Closest I've come is the encampment outside the wall. My to-do list just keeps growing the longer I play. Easily distracted, I make lists of tasks to accomplish each night. Little gets done but more gets added.

Tonight I am supposed to train as I want to fit that in (only have 1/5) before I rest and level to 4 which a menu told me I was ready to do but I didn't have enough gold to train so I had to go off and get some stuff to sell and along the way find out where some trainers are who are high enough for my benefit but not too high to refuse me as a student. On the highway to Kvatch I killed a mage with an inventory chock full of potions, two of which were Detect Life and Dispel prompting me to teleport to Bruma where I could now do the Mage's quest and what to my wondering ears but the invisible guy whispered me but I discovered the Dispel could only be used on me, not him. So I got angy, saved, and quit for the night with his invisible self standing in front of me but, alas, by the time I find a Dispel to use on others (using the money I saved for training) time will have passed and he'll be elsewhere.

Tonight's do-list says very clearly: train, sleep, level ->Kvatch.

No lolly-gagging!!

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YAP

Just calm down.  Focus.  You are now at level 4.  You can do Kvach.  I did it at level 3.  Just look at your inventory and make sure you have some good weapons and some restore health potions.   And if you do,  go out and kick the S out of those interlopers in Kvach.

Focus, Yap, focus.

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Dearest Kay,

I fear at my age, the dye is set. Focus is not in my repertoire.

Luckily, sheer cussedness & pissed-off determination are. Part of my skiil set.

Off to off the demons. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Last night, we liberated Castle Kvatch. At one point, I found myself taking on daedra with my bare hands because my short sword broke! Unfortunately for the Duke, he'd already gone to the big castle in the sky. Along with most of the Imperial Guard that had come to our aid. Hey, if you're going to get in the way of my crazy swinging sword, it's not my fault if I take a chunk out of your hide!

For my troubles, I was awarded Salivating Matt's sweat-drenched Kvatch Cuirass. As Martin and I left the still smouldering Kvatch, I helped myself to a much better steel short sword as its previous owner would have no further use for it. Of course, by that time I was so loaded down with phat lewt that I was encumbered by an extra 30 pounds and couldn't move. Trying to decide what to leave behind was the biggest decision of the night.

Does the weather in this place ever improve? It's been raining since I left Weynon Priory. I need the sun or I get cranky. And people won't like me if I'm cranky.

Yap, should I tell you that I did the siege at level 2? I decided if everything was going to level with me, I wouldn't sleep to level. Of course, I forgot about that and slept right before taking on the castle. The daedra definitely took more hits to put them down.

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This was actually my second time at Kvatch as I rescued the place a year ago in an earlier install.  This time I'm running tthe mod Kvatch Reborn.

After all was said & done & I turned the corner to walk down the hill, I was surprised to see the entire encampment in single file marching up the path. Huh, I don't recall that from before. After talking to a couple of them, I remembered the mod.

Back inside the walls there are early signs of recovery. I can walk around, the streets are cleared with piles of rubble everywhere. Buildings are burned out shells, but people are returning - two tents are set up outside the cathedral. Now I remember the mod's description, over time I can watch Kvatch recover into a fully functional, services included city. Neato.

Outside the walls -->Back On Task! Down the hill, there stood Martin - no npcs, no tents, nothing left of the former camp but his lonesome self. He did admit to wondering if I'd return.

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Martin and I have made our way back to Weynon Priory - not before I dragged him through a burned out tower and Odille (or is it Odette) farm to rid the place of goblins. He's quite handy to have around. Too bad I can't attach him to my hip for the rest of the game. I now have both he and Joffrey Ballet in tow. We'll eventually make our way to Cloud Top. Maybe.

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I'm lvl 5, wandering around inefficiently. A playstyle that drives me nuts.

While closing an Oblivion Gate - something despised so deeply that a mod is supposed to prevent all random ones - a message warned my speed had been slowed.  I lost agility? With my conglomeration of mods, I'm not certain my status effects are displayed accurately, or at all, in my menus. Which show nothing amiss.

What's that bar below the weapon in lower left corner of screen? Is that the status of the weapon (degrading) or me? It's showing about 60%....but I need to know of what. Fix weapon or fix me? I tried some fixme spell and it didn't budge.

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