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Oblivion Total Conversion: Nehrim
ToniCvrk
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Yapette, search the room wher u found that note carefully or  

look on the table

 

Found new side quest: Chapter II..Mising Master Brewer

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Yapette, look up in the same area you found the note in the room with the table. I missed it too.I'll look for the merchant. Thanks.

I would think using any alteration spell would raise alteration. I just bought Malpha's key spell, but when I looked in my inventory, no spell. My teleknesis spell is missing also. I checked the seller again and he doesn't have them. I'll have to reload and play a bit to see if it will work. I notice the only way to see what keys I have is to check my inventory at my chest. I did have the Zerobilon key but the dooor wouldn't open. Not sure what is going on.

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Youse guys are great! Immediate response so I can go right back in. You know, when I find the key I could stand at the gate and keep casting open lock (anyway). [Image Can Not Be Found] Naw, says it needs a key so I'm guessing my alteration will not increase. Now I can't wait till I find the next locked chest.

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Pokey, in your inventory click on the blue key icon and the keys will appear. For some reason that section is collapsed by default. It took me a while to figure that out too.

I have a Fortify Alteration necklace I forgot about which ups my Alteration to 25 but the Open Lock spell still won't work even though I should have it high enough using the necklace. It fails and says my level isn't high enough! Frustrating! Finally I just clicked on Auto Open and burned up a bunch of lockpicks. 

Yap, I missed that note too. It's almost invisible against the same colored table unless you cursor over it. Think kick the bucket... It sounds like your monitor is overly dark also. I didn't have any problem seeing the second pirate merchant across the room. I have my gamma pumped about 5 extra points.

Toni, it's the Soul Flayer vault. I'm quit right after finding it. Hope it's not locked. I brought my new horse up here to Death Pass. Maybe not so smart. I like that the flute shows a worth of 3000 gold in inventory. The horse is free but the flute costs 3 grand.

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Soul flayer is locked (its part of later quest), but  u can enter small unmarked temple before it…hope ur't afraid of spiders[Image Can Not Be Found]

master ravens hut is near, down the stream

 

Found new side quests: chapter II  if the mind is strong… and  Blocked teleport

 

Yapette u cant raise alteration on "needs a key" locks...find average lock and cast open easy lock any alteration spell will do, but think this cost less mana than others

 

for missing spells and items.. try update ur game

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Scout, I'd found the note...the key was practically invisible on the table.

Yup, this computer/monitor/video card combo is very dark. Over last three weeks (playing Nehrim) I swapped video cards, power supplies & changed to a case w/ grills & 3 fans (it's usually ~87F in the house when we arrive on Fridays). Thought heat just might be a problem that would improve performance. It did, kind of.

Have all the parts except a motherboard for my next build. Since I'm 2 months ahead of my self-imposed schedule I'm leisurely watching sales. When done I'll bring home's computer here & darkness begone! Until my husband adopts this computer [Image Can Not Be Found] but he doesn't play anything but WoW so it's never an issue.

Question: anyone know who trains alteration? Scout, I had same problem trying lock spell, couldn't cast even with stat boosting equipment. Base skill not high enough. Is there a spell (not scroll) for easy (lower) open lock? I'm going now to the sewer thieves to see if they might.

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Yapette, for open easy or very easy, sanctum if u are in chapter I or try shady guy on the road south of felstenbu…something( north from Giliad)

training : sanktum or monastery, or Chaeblabla in chapter Ii

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Hmmm, the sewer thieves were helpful - they will train alteration but I don't want to spend the pts. to get high enough to cast open lock. Bought open easy and still can't cast (need 25, I'm 17).

I will go back to Sanctum, look around. Checked everyone I could think of at ground level, must be somebody I'm missing (no alteration or open lock spells). Or shady guy, I have never seen him before.

But I have Plan B! Bought frost shield (I) that I can cast so I do, over & over & over. Moved up one point so far. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Found the perfect place to practice opening locks...if I ever get high enough to cast the spell. Tx Collector's trap door in the bank is very hard, that should do it.

Right now at top of tower N of Erothin, got to top and forgot why I was there. [Image Can Not Be Found] Picked up 7 bottles (aren't there supposed to be 8?), went back, drank pot #2 and missed! fell and died. Too tired to continue tonight.

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I bought the divine shield spell and cast it till I reached alteration 25, but it said I didn't have the skill when I tried the open lock spell. I practiced opening locks with my security at 39 and am getting better at opening average locks.

Scout, thanks for the tip on keys.

I tried using the spell once I had 25 (without using any armor that raised the level) and the spell worked. But it set off the bell, which I thought it wouldn't do.

I'm at Death Pass and looking for the key to Soul Flayer Temple. It wasn't with the spiders below, though the biggest one disappeared somehow. Hope it didn't have it.

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Sorry,

i mentioned shady guy in Furtsanden…its DARK FIGURE and trains illusion, marksman and security, not alteration,

however, think tha  Larthana in Witch House train all magic + alchemy. U can buy MARK and RECALL spells there…

 

Pokey, Soul flayer is a part of the quest so its locked for now... Queen spider dont have key, nor any quest related/open location/part of the armor  item far as i know,

so don't worry..

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Pokey, thanks for good & bad news. Great that having an honest lvl 25 allows casting open lock. Yikes, but it sets off the anti-magic bell.

I keep forgetting. Yesterday after off-loading a bunch at the merchant, I stood at my chest to gather what is now outdated (have more powerful) to sell. Guard came up and arrested me. 1000g fine. [Image Can Not Be Found] I hadn't done nuthin'.

Opted for jail out of curiosity & cheapness, learned that jail gives a massive array of permanent stat reductions. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Decided f*ck this, I'm reloading…nothing I lost in a reload would equal the loss of 1000g. Or lower stats.

In hindsight, I'd done no stealing, only sold since arriving, nowhere but trunk & merchant. All I can figure is while twiddling with my trunk, I noticed my health at 50% so without thinking….it's now second nature…I healed myself with a spell. [Image Can Not Be Found]

I will *try* to be more careful in the future. Although, the aforementioned Debt Collector's trap door in the bank – just for heck of it I cast all my open lock scrolls. No one noticed, but no one in line of sight. Do you think magic is sensed like Oblivion's "psychic guards" or must guards actually see you commit the act?

 

Toni, where is the Witch's House? As I have explored very few areas, I'm guessing I haven't discovered it yet.

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Yapette, its a House of Snow Witch, east of Giliad, near Ice Temple..

Did u read  Witch bell notice..if u cast a spell bell rings ...kind a alarm against magic

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Yes, I read the notice....I thought someone rang the bell manually, not the presence of magic would set off the bell. Phooey! [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Yap, there were guards around and I wondered if that made a difference. I'm thinking if no one sees you, you can get  away with it. I got fined for healing in the city. I even got fined outside the gates. Just outside of Cahbeat, I got fined for just talking to a guard. Guess he was on duty and not to be distrubed. I walked by him later, no fine.

I was at the gates of Cahbeat, but couldn't get in even with a key. Didn't seem to be another way in. Searching for a stolen statue now.

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Pokey that key is for the door on  northrealm outpost when u cross bridge in death pass..

For entering the city ull have to wait....

part of main quest

 

I'm in chapter III ...trigger is

entering tower of mist

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I set off the bell once in Erothin when I was playing around with a spell and accidently cast it. It's been a day or two and no guards have approached so I might have been lucky and not been seen.

Just got back from the Natilus Docks, hitting a few caves and mines along the way. I found a star sword but it's a point less damage than my old pirate sword. [Image Can Not Be Found] I did find a pretty decent shield in the crypt in the Harbor area, just past where Reman was praying, through that door and down in there. 

I cast a fire shield till I got my Alteration up to 25 and then the game crashed and I had to do it again. The open lock spell works now so I'm wondering if all those enchantments on armor, cloths, etc. even do anything or was it just nerfed for the lock spell.

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The parts of the statue have been returned and are put back together. Pretty nice reward for that quest. Guess I'll see if I can find the monastery since I am in the area. I am at level 20 now. The scene with the logs at Death Pass was a surprise. I need to check out the door that the key fits on the way back. I piled a bunch of armor and weapons on the bridge to pick up later.

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Pokey, who gives that statue quest? I was just in a cave with a couple of statue remnants I could click on but nothing happened. It was in a crypt by that brewery town up around Death Pass.

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hmm, i think Kim is in love with me[Image Can Not Be Found]

I think that main loot is on the bosses, not in locked chests, and at some point got better weapon when i enchanted it myself.

i found some really good stones later (gives 6 shock damage per something and over 5000 uses) and if u kill T-Rex (big one, not small one) loot it corpse for dinosaur something. u can enchante item for 30 mana and 30 life… not bad…

I think ill be sent to southrealm in my next quest..but i'll think i'm gonna search for side qusts for now..

 

Anyone, got any idea for Shoes quest? Didnt find any expencive shoes so far…

 

Scout try chappel by the army camp

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Scout, the shrine is on the little side road off to the right just outside of Cahbeat. There is a bridge and a boat near the road.

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