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Morrowind with Tons of Mods - Who's up for another go?
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HarbourMaster
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I've officially decided to stop reading this thread of mass Morrowind spoilerage. Enough already. I WILL PLAY THE GAME.

 

 

at some point

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Sorry HM, I didn't know you were still reading this! I ought to spoiler tag things if virgin eyes are lurking.

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The whole Bollocks forum is pretty much one big spoiler.  Virgins should enter these parts with wary wariness.

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Flying between Vivec's cantons naturally doesn't evoke so much as a
raised eyebrow from the citizens or guards, and that wears away at my
immersion and interest in the game like sleeping bag lined with
sandpaper.

 

That's a good point Jakkar - that would have been cool to see the plebs and guards pointing or watching in awe as you flew above them.  Look, it's a bird...

 

And I've avoided reading the New Vegas thread for the same reason, Scout and HM!

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Same here. But it's your own fault if you come reading for a game you've yet to experience! =p Admittedly, it's quite hard to really spoil most of Morrowind - descriptions of any location in a world that large can be fairly nonspecific, and not many players actually get very deep into the plot for the sheer number of distractions available.

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HM, whaddya got against Toronto, dude?  [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Started playing again tonight. I'm on what may be the slowest quest in the game, finding 4 different kinds of mushrooms. Yayness.

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I enjoy that kind of quest - I find there are a lot of them in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Largely about collecting scrap metal for various people. It's simplistic, but it fits, and it doesn't compel you with a 'YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD!' warning that nonetheless never comes to anything.

It's a real immersion-breaker when an open-world RPG gives you a vital task to save the lives or immortal souls!  of the innocent, RIGHT NOW! only to spend the next 17 ingame days running around the world doing many other things, then to stumble finally by luck upon the scripted quest trigger, finding that the child who apparently got lost almost three weeks ago or the hostages being held in the cave are still there, and no-one has died of dehydration or gotten bored and gone home - and they'll act with surprise.

"How did you find us so quickly, Protagonist?! Nomatter, none will ever know of your heroism! EN GARDE!"

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I usually have to turn off the game around this point and go to sit in my bathtub sobbing and scratching at myself. Parasites are terrible. And poor quest design.

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Ah, the mushroom quest! I remember that one. I believe there's a flower quest too. Hang in there. 🙂

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HOLY MOTHERFUCKIN SHIT!

http://morroblivion.com/?Repost

Haven't tried but...

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I'm not sure I prefer that to the Morrowind I know. It looks much bloomier, clearer and cleaner, and besides, bugger off with your temptations Armand.

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I remember reading about this (and I thought posting it somewhere here as well) a couple of months ago.

 

It looks very interesting, but I don't know whether they have also mapped over all of the quests, or just the NPCs and locations.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Quick update!

After a brief trip back to Arkhenasdgbljslgjjmteewkpsekfspgjyhand with a few levitate potions I got to the top of that flooded chamber to find…

NOTHING.

Jakkar, was it you who said there were some good things up there? If by good things you meant absolutely nothing, then you were 100% correct! Well done! 😉

I also tried looking for a door while I was down there for the key I was given but I'm pretty damn sure I've well and truly cased the place.

Anyway, after that fruitless descent and ascent two things happened for the first time as I left the mine. Firstly, there was some sort of thick red storm slowing me down and limiting my vision. And secondly, I was attacked by cliff racers. They were everywhere. As I carefully explored those cracked peaks, I slipped down a slope into the middle of butt-fuck nowhere and spent the next 20 minutes getting my bearings to make my way back to Balmora.

I figured it was time to go to Pelagiad to find some Dunmer tomb as part of the main quest line so I took the first silt strider out of there to Seyda Neen. While I was wandering through the Bitter Coast region I decided to practice my sneak attacking on the many crabs roaming the shores and was surprised at how quickly my skills began to level up. As I entered the Ascadian Isles I met Nels Llendo who asked for a big sloppy kiss. Obviously he's a furry and I didn't fancy any inter-species canoodling with a random highwayman so I declined his request. Later on I realised that I might have gotten a training discount had I kissed him and considering how expensive training is and how light my wallet is, that would have been handy. Damn.

Eventually I found the Dunmer tomb and was quickly rogered by a skeleton archer and some nasty looking bonewalker thing so I'm probably going to go back to Pelagiad to buy/steal some supplies.

New pictures are up as well!

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Gregg: the Mark and Recall spells are YOUR FRIENDS. Trust me. Short of Levitate there's really nothing you need more in your toolbox of magical goodies. Well, aside from unlock spells. And water walk/water breathe. You need those. And some good healing spells. Actually you just need them all.
Those red storms will intensify as you approach the Ghostfence; one of the many delightful atmospheric aspects of the game. As you get deeper and the quests begin to come together it grows all the more intoxicating an experience.

Great pictures! It's amazing how much the improved faces help.

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Thanks for the pics [Image Can Not Be Found]  Yeah, I remember the storms... you get them sometimes in Ald-rhun (sp) as well.  Another good reason to steal all of the light-sources possible and make a trail of where you frequently travel.

 

I'm not sure about something being at the very top of that first cave, but I thought there was a chest or something on one of the levels, resting just behind a column... but I could be mistaken.  It's been a while, and I don't think my dream of a refurbished PS3 version is going to come true, so I don't think I'll be able to check for a little while.

 

Oblivion GotY was on sale for $24 the other day, which was tempting.  Maybe I'll get it in a couple of weeks...  but we'll see.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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You're right Jarrod, there was a chest up there — a chest with a Dwemer cylinder in it! 😛

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I once again own Morrowind, since selling it, oh... 6 years ago?

The question is, do I go vanilla or all-out with the 2011 comprehensive graphical overhaul mod.

I hate the effort involved in modding ... but I've watched the videos and the game looks quite beautified.

I already dove into the game, vanilla, but I can always start again. I never noticed Morrowind's lovely soundtrack back when I played it on Xbox.

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Nhggnnn. So many mods, so many headaches!

I really, really wish I'd just jumped into vanilla. Instead, I spent a month researching, downloading, and testing an absolute shit ton of mods (one of the most laborious processes I've ever endured) then when I finally started playing the damn game realised that every single character I came across was another word for dull. I found myself getting to villages and begrudgingly talking to the locals, utterly flabbergasted at the lists of subjects and the glut of generic remarks. I enjoyed the adventuring and the exploring but all the dialogue I found excruciating and it pretty much doused any enthusiasm I had for the game. Who knows, one day I might start it again but realistically I can't see it.

Thankfully Armand's other heavyweight recommend, Fallout 3, has been exemplary, and if that's any hint at the quality to come with Skyrim then I'll probably be starting my time with The Elder Scrolls there. I really wanted to like Morrowind and even now when I think of Vvardenfell I want to go back there and trudge about in the rain exploring.

Edit: My advice is to stay close to vanilla because seemingly innocuous mods can cause real issues, some you might not notice until later on in the game. If you want I can have a look at my mod list and let you know of the ones I'd universally heartily recommend.

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Thanks, Gregg. Your variety of no-nonsense is always helpful!

I agree that modding can indeed be a pain. Tragically so, in your case, where the time modding seems to have outstripped the time played.

The conversation system in Morrowind is odd, and makes those used in Oblivion and Fallout 3 seem cutting edge by comparison. Still, I will go as far as I can in preparation for the world-shattering event that is Skyrim.

If you're quite enjoying Fallout 3 I'd heartily recommend New Vegas once you're done. It's far less singular than Fallout 3 and acts more as a natural predecessor to Fallout 2, what with it taking place in the west. Fallout 3 is definitely the best series introduction (aside from, of course, Fallout). Did you play the first two Fallouts? New Vegas is certainly most closely related to Fallout 2, so having played that would probably enhance anyone's experience, but it's only minor references and a few characters here and there that you'd be missing.

New Vegas, on the whole, is a spruced up Fallout 3; most folks seem to agree on the stronger writing especially.

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I can get behind the stronger writing with Avellone being at the helm.

I started Fallout many years ago but got stuck in a vault between a hired gun called 'Ian' and a bed. He was much tougher than me so I couldn't kill him to get him out of my way and my previous save was inconveniently distant. As a result I didn't pick it up again. Fallout 3 is my first real dip into series and I can't complain really, it's a great start.

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