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Jarrod's Fallout 3, Part 2
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Something weird happened to the Jarrod's Fallout 3 post, so I took it out behind the barn and put it down humanely. Continue the discussion here!

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Whew! Thought I'd been post-banned or sumpthin'. [Image Can Not Be Found]

 

Not that I have anything relevant (or not) to say about Jarrod's Fallout 3, but I mighta. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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I did not do nuthin'.  I wasn't even there.  It ain't my fault the thread got corrupted.  The Enclave did it, I suppose.  Good on you, Steerpike.

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I'll summarize my last post.

 

1. Book of Eli movie - Fantasy fun in the wasteland. Gary Oldman good, last scene bad.

 

2. The Road movie - Cool art, bad editing, confusing and last scene bad.

 

3. Fallout 3 game - Try and start at Megaton instead of DC.

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Thanks for the second thread, Steerpike.

 

I didn't think the editing was so bad in The Road, Scout, but it did lose a little coherency and credibility towards the end.  I think it's more harrowing what Viggo would have went through considering what his wife ultimate did (without giving anything away) than surviving the devastation.

 

In Fallout 3, I've saved enough caps to get a theme for my humble little shack - I chose the Love one for a bit of a lark.  Not long after, I stumbled across Dimitri's (or Dhukov or something similar) digs, who has a little swinging pad, with the same glowing statue hanging from the roof as I have!  But he was, of course, more creepy than myself.

 

I've since come across super mutants.  They were pretty scary when I first saw them, but they're not so tough now.  Especially if I use some tactics fighting them rather than just shooting.  Speaking of tactics, I'm giving the VATS system a try, and I'm starting to get the hang of it, although it does slow down the action considerably.

 

A mad doctor who I helped kill off some ants for has spliced my DNA with fire ant DNA, giving me bonuses to perception and some fire resistance, which is handy.  Flamethrowers are truly fearful weapons to come across, so it's nice to know that they won't hurt as much as before.

 

And despite Spike's warning allusion that something bad might happen to my shack, nothing has happened yet.  Maybe something will trigger when I leave Megaton for good, I don't know.  I'm going to try to finish all of the Megaton quests before I head off permanently, and I'm half-way through the third chapter of the Supply Chick's book quests.

 

My alignment is good - I'm an Urban Avatar, and my icon looks a bit like Jesus.  I've maxed-out lockpicking and almost maxed out sneak.  Then I need to work on a weapon skill, and I'm leaning towards lasers at the moment.  What weapons do you guys suggest?

 

Oh, and I've come across some Enclave peeps.  I thought they were good guys, and I thought very very wrong.  They're very tough, too - far worse than super muties.  I've fought two so far.  I traded some Enclave gear at the Outcast Fort, and the guy wore the Enclave gear as soon as he received it.  I think his buddies should court-marshall him or something, but they don't seem to care.

 

I've got a spare set of Enclave armour, and some Bortherhood armour too - but alas, no Power Armour skill with which I can wear those suits of awesome.  I don't know if I can join the Brotherhood, but they seem pretty cool and I think I will join them if I get a chance to.

 

Talon Mercenary jerks attack me at every opportunity, and they're pretty tough.  I lead them into a group of super muties to watch them duke it out, and they smashed the supes.

 

Still enjoying it - as I've said, I want to complete the Megaton quests before I head off back to the Main Quest sequence.  Having a lot of fun exploring too.  I'm on a quest to Rivet City, and I'm interested to see whether it has a different visual appeal to Megaton.  One of the fun things about coming to new cities in Morrowind was that they often had completely different looks and feels, which made you believe you were imersing in different cultures, so I hope that the cities in Fallout 3 have their own distinct identities too.

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Jarrod said:

And despite Spike's warning allusion that something bad might happen to my shack, nothing has happened yet.  Maybe something will trigger when I leave Megaton for good, I don't know.  I'm going to try to finish all of the Megaton quests before I head off permanently, and I'm half-way through the third chapter of the Supply Chick's book quests.

 

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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Spike said:

Jarrod said:

And despite Spike's warning allusion that something bad might happen to my shack, nothing has happened yet.  Maybe something will trigger when I leave Megaton for good, I don't know.  I'm going to try to finish all of the Megaton quests before I head off permanently, and I'm half-way through the third chapter of the Supply Chick's book quests.

 


 

I wasn't referring to your Megaton home, but to something else that
might happen in Megaton depending on the choices you make.  I can't
remember now what I meant specifically (and the previous thread is gone,
so I can't look it up), but I do know I was thinking about Burke.  Have
you met Burke yet?  Something in one of your earlier posts made me
think of him.

You've really made a lot of progress in a short time.  Good for you. 
I'm glad you're having fun.

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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Hey Spike,

 

I took care of Mr Burke early in the piece, so I don't know if he'll come back to haunt me.  I gained karma for killing him, so assume it was not such a bad act.

 

Actually, I told Sheriff Simms about him, and he marches in and tries to arrest Mr Burke.  Without giving too much away, I didn't like how that event played out, so I re-loaded and got proactive, taking out Mr Burke beforehand.  No-one seemed terribly upset.

 

I broke into his shack, and was disappointed with what was inside, considering there was such a high level lock on his front door.  If ever I need a new shack, I'm moving into his!

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It seems like an eternity has passed since I completed Fallout 3-- January 2009-- but one thing in particular that I remember was never getting the shack/apartment in Megaton, nor the opposite option. I think I must have remained completely neutral in that matter, somehow.

 

I remember many people saying that they would find places to store their gear and discovered that it would often be stolen. I thought this was a little too clever for a Bethesda game and chalked it up to glitches. Throughout my travels I always had two hiding places for gear and they both seemed to be unmolested whenever I checked up on them: a locker in the women's bathroom in Megaton (I was really trying to role-play my game here and I genuinely assumed that no woman in her right post-apocalyptic mind would set foot past that door.) and a box that sat under a table that sat beside a corpse strewn upon a soiled mattress in some train station. If I remember correctly it must have bordered downtown D.C. because it was the first place I met a Paladin.

 

I always liked the uneasy alliance that appeared to exist between the Brotherhood and the people (including your player) in the Fallout games. It worked well with the karma system; still a refreshing reprieve from the simple "morality" scale that so many games offer.

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I found Rivet City, after spending about 2 hours searching right there.  That damned intercom is tiny, how is anyone expected to see it and know that's the way in?  Bastards.

 

I'm pretty impressed with Rivet City, thematically.  I dig the big boat (reminds me of a certain big boat in my fav book, 'The Use of Weapons' by Iain M Banks).  Definitely not to be confused visually with Megaton.  It is a bugger to travel around in though.  Damned convoluted passageways.

 

I'm level 10 now, and I'm getting the hang of VATS, and multiple shots.  Once I've finished the Supply Chick's quest there, I think I'll try to track down the Brotherhood, and see if I can hook up with them.  It would be good to do their quests (if they have quests) before I complete too much of the game.  I've got two sets of power armour just begging to be used, so that I can look all kinds of awesome.  I don't know if there is any better armour than the Brotherhood's to be had in the game, but it is a tantalising thought.  Mind you, I'm sure my sneak will suffer from the heavier armour, but what are you gonna do? [Image Can Not Be Found]

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Jarrod said:

 It is a bugger to travel around in though.  Damned convoluted passageways.

 


 

Wait.  Just wait.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

 

I loved the Outcast armor.  I liked the red scruffiness of it, and with the extra strength I could carry up to 300lbs.  After a time I searched out random encounters just for their armor.  I didn't feel too bad about it.  When you try to talk to them they are so rude and insulting.  They deserved whatever they got from me.

"…you just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake."

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I thought of killing them off during random encounters, but I'm basically a Nice Guy.  Also, if I killed off a couple, would the rest of them hate me?  I still want to be able to interact with the Outcasts for the duration of the game, if I can.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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So I didn't get to play too much Fallout last night after work - TF being the new shiney object of distraction.

 

I've decided to try to find the Brotherhood, and offer my services to them.  I've left for the NE in my self-imposed quest, and then I'll start heading south, searching the map for Paladins.  Nothing too exciting up in the NE at the moment - although I did come across some dastardly things called 'deathclaws' which tore me several new holes.  And I found a schematic to build some deathclaw knuckedusters or something, and you need a hand (literally) to make them.  Ewww.

 

The search continues...

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I've given up on my search, of not the quest, for the Brotherhood, for a couple of reasons.

 

1. I was checking out a wiki entry on the companions you can get in the game, and they mentioned a Paladin (Cross) or someone, and before my eyes could stop reading, it mentioned a Citadel that you only come to fairly late in the game.  Why would you only be able to access the Brotherhood's Citadel late in the game?  I thought to myself.

 

2. There are a great many walled off areas in the built up section in tge SE corner of the map.  A lot.  Trying to comb through these areas was frustrating - I don't often come to Bethesda games thinking they'll have walled off sections.

 

3. Whenever I was walking along in the game, not doing too much, just trundling, my sleek, seductive, shiny, and new Transformers: War for Cybertron kept calling me.  Adventure?  Excitement?  Sack tearing, adrenalin-fueld frantic robot carnage and bullet-hell-on-wheels destruction?...  how can I resist thee.

 

So, I gave in to my impatient fault, and looked up the Citadel online.  I read somewhere that it was close to a library that I needed to visit anyway, and made the trek there.

 

My elation at finding the Citadel soon became horror, as I realised the Brotherhood guards were not going to let me in.  The bastards.

 

So I went back and finished off the Survival Guide quests (the library quest being the last of the chain), and continued on with the main quests.

 

Some Enclave came and messed things up, and out of it I picked up my first plasma rifle (which rocks) and some new power armour - Tesla Power Armour.  After the Enclave did their dastardly deeds, we all fled to, lo and behold, the Citadel!  Armed with whining refugees, we were granted admittance, and I've finally been trained to wear the awesome power armour.  I've levelled a couple more times, and after maxing out my lockpicking skills, I'm now building up my energy weapons skills.

 

I'm also relying far more heavily on VATS for combat, having taken a few VATS specific perks that allow me to pop heads clean off and turn to ash those deluded souls who believe we shouldn't be working together for the betterment of all.

 

I was hoping that I could become a fully-fledged member of the Brotherhood, but haven't come across any quests that look like they lead to initiation... yet.  We'll see.  I might go visit some other Vaults or otherwise look for quests, as I'd like to give the power armour and plasma rifle a full workout before proceeding to the end of the game (if it happens to be close).

 

In Transformers news, I've played some more multiplayer matches, and don't totally suck (which is nice), and have even killed the most in a Team Deathmatch (which was totally unexpected).  I do hope they bring out some Character Packs or something for it, as I'd like to see more robot variety.

 

I'm up to the end of the Decepticon Chapter 2, having just fought a massive Autobot who looked a little like Jetfire (but wasn't) and I've been trying to take out the end-of-level boss immediately after the titan - but he's pretty damned difficult.

 

Anyway, I need to ask - how do you guys juggle two games that you are enjoying equally as much (if for completely differing reasons)?

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Sometimes, with great difficulty. Especially when key controls conflict.

 

Like my thumb hitting spacebar when I mean to open a door (Oblivion) but instead jump like a fool (Divinity II). Or worse, click RM to start a conversation (Divinity II), but instead shoot fireballs at an innocent npc (Oblivion).

 

Oftimes my brain switches games more easily than mindless fingers can keep up. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Jarrod - have you been to all the forts and vaults?  Great fun and lots o' loot.  If you haven't discovered it yet, which you probably have, check this link out.  It can be your friend if frustration gets unbearable.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3

BTW, you can, if you choose, become a full member of the Brotherhood, but that won't happen just yet.  They will even be "...honored by your presence here."  Which is great the first dozen times you hear it, then like yeah, yeah, blah, blah, the next thousand times.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

I can't play more than one game at a time.  I get too caught up in the story, which is made so easy by the graphics.  Now books, I can have several going at the same time without problems.

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I can't have multiple games or books going as I start to jumble everything together. I am easily confuzzled or distracted. You decide.

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I'm the opposite of Spike - I simply can't read more tha one book at a time!  But games I can juggle a little.  I think I'll let my circumstances decide what to play - if I'm likely to get on the PS3 for less than 30 minutes, I'll play TF:WfC - but if I'm likely to be on for more than 30 minutes I'll jump into Fallout 3.  I probably won't purchase another game for a while, so I'll be able to dedicate a few months to these two games, relatively exclusively.

 

And no way have I been to all of the Vaults and Forts!  I came across a Talon Merc fort the other day, and was happily killing away, when someone lit me up with several rapid-fire shots from a rocket launcher.  Totally uncalled-for.

 

I've tried to steer clear of the wiki so far, but might have to indulge.  I might look up locations of some of the best gear, and see how powerful I can make myself.  Incidentally, the robes that the Brotherhood scribes wear look pretty cool - are they any good?  Worth killing a scribe for?  [Image Can Not Be Found]

 

And Yap, I can sympathise with the controller mix-ups - my fingers have a very short term memory indeed, and forget what game they should be playing, quickly.

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Oh, don't kill the scribes.  They will be good for stuff later on.

I probably won't purchase another game for a while, so I'll be able to
dedicate a few months to these two games, relatively exclusively.

Before F3 it wouldn't take me more than 2 weeks or so to finish an adventure game.  I thought I might get a couple of months out of F3.  Admittedly, I killed some time waiting for my son to catch up, but I pretty much spent 5 solid months in the Wasteland.  For the last week or so I've been boning up on how to properly install mods, and reading descriptions of hundreds of them here:  http://www.fallout3nexus.com/

Once I've got the mods downloaded and installed I figure I'll have a few more months of play in the old game.  Almost enough to take me to November when New Vegas is released - if it's released on time.  I should probable wait several months for a patch for the inevitable bugs, but I'm chomping at the bit.

I so loved the forts that I'm looking at mods that well, mod, some of them, and mods that add other forts.  I finally understand how people can spend years on one game without tiring of it.  I didn't get that before F3.

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Jarrod, if you hear rumours of a "green place with trees" in your travels through the wasteland, please, please do not be tempted to look it up via wiki. Finding it on your own is extremely rewarding, and one of the cooler moments of Fallout 3.

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