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Gothic 2: Night of the Ravens
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kaythomas
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As I said on What are you playing now  I was now wondering between The Withcher (which I had intended to play when I finishing Dragn Age Origins)   and Gothic 2 --Night of the Raven.   My wondering came from reading Scout's review of both of them.  And also from playing Risen which I liked a lot about and a lot not. 

But I took the plunge into Gothic 2 - NOTR and I am hooked and I am going to give it a try.  So I have set up a thread here for me to talk about it and ask for help.  Since I will certainly need help. 

Kay

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I haven't played either, although I've heard that the writing in The Witcher was highly praised.

 

Enjoy Gothic 2! Let us know how you go.

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Kay, I think you will like NotR a lot. There isn't much more I can add that I didn't already say in the review. Enjoy and post your impressions so hopefully more people will check out this vastly underrated game.

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Thanks for this firm reminder. Gothic II is now making its tiny teeny digital way down to my HD. Witcher was fun for some time, and I'm sure the overall arc is great, but man the middle is boring like pancakes on Wednesday.

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I am really loving this game.   I sort of understood it when I started from playing most of Risen.   And also how to build a character. In Risen I just kept dithering and spreading out my points on lots of differest stuff and I never got that good at anything.  I have leaned.  This time I am going to be a Paladin and am spending my points on that and only that.  Eventually I will be stong enough and with a good enough weapon to kill them all. And then I can look at building other stuff.   For now I am following Pokey's advise to run and bring my attackers to someone stronger who can kill tham for me.  Great strategy Pokey.  Thank you for the advice.

So far I have only seen a small part of the island but on my few ventures out from the town I suspect I will find it a complicated and beautiful place.  That is important to me.  I like exploring but most of all I like exploring beautiful places.

As I play this, in the back of my mind is comparing it to Morrowind and OblivionMorrowind is probably my most favorite game ever. Oblivion was dissapointing but I still enjoyed playing it.  This is a very different type of RPG.  And there are ways that I like this kind of game better and some ways I like it less.  So we shall see.

So far I am liking it a lot.  But it is early days, my friends.   I may start bitching in a bit.  If I do, just tell me to go back and play more. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Kay 

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Kay, please chuck a post up here if you ever do a comparison with Morrowind - I haven't played Gothic 2, but it'd be interesting to see how it holds up to the high quality of Morrowind.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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Kay, are you having any issues? I'm finding the game locks up frequently and wont respond to certain keystrokes. I think it's savegame corruption because it just suddenly started happening.

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Helmut said:

Kay, are you having any issues? I'm finding the game locks up frequently and wont respond to certain keystrokes. I think it's savegame corruption because it just suddenly started happening.


 Helmut

I haven't experienced that yet.   But I am playing the Gothic Universe edition which only came out after all 3 Gothic games and I expect cleaned up most of the problems.

Kay

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Keep posting, Kay. I like to hear about all your exploits in one of my favorite games. A warning---avoid the dark forest till you are stronger. It is a dangerous place. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Helmut said..... 
Kay, are you having any issues? I'm finding the game locks up frequently and wont respond to certain keystrokes. I think it's savegame corruption because it just suddenly started happening.

After you first asked this, Helmut,  I said no. 

But now it is yes. This happened to me today.  It not only locked up but I had to shut my computer down and restart it just to get out of the lock.  Not an elegant solution but when it come to tech,  I am not an elegant person.    Bad stuff. But fortunately I had a recent save (what everyone says -- save, save, save) so I didn't lose too much.   I will let you know if that happens again.

On the bright side,  I finally found the path up to Dexter's Bandit camp at the towers.  I have been looking for this for days with no success. I kept going to the valley and getting killed by these gigantic monsters.  To be honest, I finally Googled --How can I get to Dexter's camp in Gothic 2? --  and I finally found something that helped me although I had to look at a lot of stuff to find the one helpful hint. 

So Dexter is toast.

I am now a member of the Water Mages.  I have telepoted between Koronis, Tavern and Water Mages'.  I did not die.  How surprising.

I ventured into the Valley of Mines once and ran out followed by some some creatures I did not want to meet.  I am still too weak and unskilled for the Valley of Mines.    

Well,  life goes on. 

Kay

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Water Mages sound cool - are there other mage guilds you can join as well?

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There is an error message I used to get with Gothic games, an access violation, but I was always able to resume with no loss of progress. I believe I shut it down though Task Manager.

 

Kay, if you go to the Valley of the Mines, you have to be sneaky about it. There is no way I could take on those Orcs, so when I came down into the valley, I went to the left up the stream and then crossed to the hill and then ran down to the castle and jumped on the beam. You can battle the Orcs from there. I did have to battle a few creatures, but I was able to handle them. Take care of the quest you are given and then head back toward town. Those Orcs are too tough for a low level character.

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Also it helps if you have a few speed potions when you first go in to the Valley of Mines. (Actually I used speed potions for most of the last half of the game to give myself an advantage.) Take a speed potion and go exactly the way Pokey describes. Even better go in and scout the path to the fallen beam that gives you access using a transformation potion. Turn yourself into a wolf or something and you can run around at will. Careful though if you get too close to the castle as an animal the Paladins inside will open fire on you. You don't have to fight your way in as is...

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Scouting as a wolf is a great idea. I rarely used transformation scrolls but they can be a big help in some situations.

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How very lucky.   Today I joined the Thief Guild and learned how to sneak.  I have a bit of cognitive dissonance going on here.  I am a member of the Malitia trying to become a Paladin and now belong to the Water Mages (I am still not sure when I can safely wear their clothes) and now I am also a Thief.  But no one seems to care so onward.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

Kay

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I just decided to make another post since my last one was post 99.  So this one should be 100. This would be an accomplishment for me on this board.  [Image Can Not Be Found]   

In the past, on other boards,  I was a prolific poster. I posted and posted even if I didn't really have anything to say.  And I was very argumentative.  Which is why I got kicked off a number of boards.   

But as I get older I have learned  that none of this matters  much.  So often I try to heed to the wisdom of Robert Benchley... Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing.   And this is why getting to 100 posts is a big deal to me. 

So now, I will post this and see if I get to 100. 

Kay 

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Congratulations on the big 100, Kay! You don't look a day older than 99 posts. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Nice quote from Robert Benchley there Kay, I'll have to use that sometime.

 

Grats on 100!

 

I'm not a member of many boards at all - I post more on this one than all others combined.

A man goes to knowledge as he goes to war, wide awake, with fear, with respect, and with absolute assurance. – The Teachings of Don Juan

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I tried going to the Valley of Mines again. Not time yet.  Then I tried for that last piece that the Water Mages need to open the portal.  Not time yet.   I am not accomplished enough to do this yet.

So I am going to work to build myself up more.  I need to learn to take time and develop myself.  [Image Can Not Be Found]

KAY 

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One quick way to gain 2 or 3 levels is to take Transform Into Shadowbeast and then pillage a bunch of caves and temples. The trick is to turn back into the Nameless One just before you die. If you die as a beast you lose all the xp you made while transformed. If you die as the main character and have saved you progress as normal.  I've never tried it in the Valley of Mines though. If you get through the Portal, explore that world first. It's easier than the Valley of Mines and you get tons of levels there. You really need to be leveled up to go into the Valley of the Mines. That is one of the things the devs made much harder than in the original G2.[Image Can Not Be Found]

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