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I didn't bother with the dragon. I did ring the gong once just to see what would happen (roasted people on a stick) but when I realized the dragon didn't care about me crossing that open space, I left it alone.

We've made it onto the palace grounds.

I'm curious about something: as you gather people to your cause, I'm wondering if the contributions you make to the camp's communal supplies makes any difference to how many troops you get? As you guys get to that point, we'll have to compare notes. I'm thinking it may not make a difference and it's simply a way to offload some of your inventory?

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I'm so far behind in the game I fear to read this thread because I want to avoid spoilers. I just arrived in Lotharing with my dog, Alistair, and a girl who wears extraordinarily skimpy tops even though another character made a point to say it's really cold where she comes from.

The whole feel of the game is so classic old-skool Bioware, I love it.

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I just met up with Flemeth again while trying to do a favor for Morrrigan. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Maybe we'll come back later. I'm at level 13 now and think I need a bit more experience. We do have Shale now and that is amusing. He didn't last long against Flemeth.

Later...got her. My two archers died almost immediately and Shale and Wynne managed it pretty much by themselves.

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Steerpike, that sounds like Morrigan - she who hates all things good-hearted and kind. Watch for her disapproval every time you save someone's kitten or puppy and don't get me started on her disdain for all things love-related. She's hard-core and I adore her! Her conversations with Alistair are classic.

Pokey, I don't remember what level we were doing Morrigan's favor, but I was definitely glad to have Shale and Wynne along for the ride.

I haven't played in a couple of days, but it's back to the final onslaught tonight.

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I didn't read the whole thread, obviously, but am just chiming in to ask: who did you guys nail so far? I am playing as a female city elf and so far my sexcapades include only

a) a prostitute (female) and

b) Zevran

Now, I know that Zevran swings both ways, some of the other players reported having successfully landed a sex scene with him despite playing with male avatars. What I am interested in, though, is whether Wynne and Morrigan can be persuaded to taste forbidden fruit. Sure I'll do Alistair if I must, he is kinda hot in a nerdy way, but I'd like to think that showering Morrigan and Wynne with gifts will not be in vain in the end.

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My female city elf doesn't kiss and tell. But you can definitely figure it out if you read the whole thread. [Image Can Not Be Found]

According to the guide, Morrigan is strictly into men. I've not read of anyone wooing Wynne - male or female - but then how many would admit to cuddling with someone everyone else sees as the grandmother-type?

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"According to the guide, Morrigan is strictly into men"

Oh noes!!! And she looks so liberated and makes all those feminist remarks all the time. I thought that dragging her into the sack would be a piece of cake once I managed to kill her mother. Grrrr... I guess my next playthrough will HAVE to be with a male character...

"but then how many would admit to cuddling with someone everyone else sees as the grandmother-type"

Judging by the activity in the GILF sections of my favourite warez sites, there are indeed many. Personally, I thought seducing her would be treated like a special challenge by the game. I know it's feasable with a male character, was just wondering whether her constant remarks how sweet it is that I care about her health all the time had some, you know, deeper meaning.

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I haven't met any girls yet, except Morrigan, and she doesn't like me much because I'm a do-gooder. I think nailing her would be like a democrat having sex with Ann Coulter just to say that he did. Besides, her clothing is just so ridiculous I can't take her seriously, except when she turns into a giant spider – then I scream shrilly and back away.

You make a point, though, Meho. She seems so... angry. She strikes me as the type who'd swing both ways. Geez, Morrigan! Everyone experiments during an adventure!

I am looking forward to the boning, though, as my dashing human noble is both tragic and fascinating to the females of all species. Bring on the ladies!

Hey, is anyone having difficulty with their party following them? It seems that every now and then my guys will just… stop following me. I turn around and they're six blocks away, I have to manually walk them up to the group. Am I clicking wrong?

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Hmmm, I am playing it on Xbox 360 primarily and there I didn't have those problems. My second playthrough will be on PC but, with all the patches available by the time I get there I don't think I'll have any troubles either. Are you sure you're not accidentally clicking a hotkey for changing party behaviour? There are two values: move freely and hold position. I uninstalled DAO from my PC to make room for pr0n so I can't tell you off the top of my head if there actually is a hotkey for changing this behaviour (on a console it's like three clicks to the menus) but that sounds like that. I just had a look into the PC version manual and there doesn't seem to be a specific key for this so… er… It's a bug?

Oh, and as for Morrigan's clothes, you'll have a chance later on to procure some other clothes for her. But I assume that in the cutscenes she'll still be dressed wearing default clothes. Which is, of course stupid. Cutscenes show all the blood splatter from a recent battle plus all active magic effects, but they don't show armour/ accessories that you have your party members wear. I mean, either go all the way or don't bother, BioWare!!!

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My cutscenes always showed the changes in armor and weaponry, including Morrigan (360 as well). I kitted Morrigan out in some sort of light armor that added to her defense and didn't impede her ability to cast. She suffered a slight hit to fatigue, but nothing that wasn't manageable. I don't think Morrigan is necessarily a feminist… she's just not into giving up her freedom for some man. They sometimes serve a specific purpose; however, it's always on her terms and she definitely doesn't want one fawning over her.

Steerpike, I think what Meho suggests may be your problem with your party suddenly finding things more interesting to do without you – you're having them hold somewhere. The only times my guys weren't stuck to me like glue is if I outran them, which I tried not to do as that was a sure-fire way to get my butt handed to me.

*edit: Oh and I never, ever used Morrigan's shapeshift powers. The fact that her default was a giant-ass spider kept me from even upgrading that skill/talent tree.

In the words of Pharoah (Yul Brynner): “Let it be written, let it be done.”

We've killed the archdemon and successfully beaten back the blight. It's the best game ending ever. Spoilers ahead! If you haven't finished, don't read them! You have been warned!

Juggernaut armor and the Keening blade w/enchantments! are your friends.

If you've done the Lothering quests and met the Dwarven peddler and his son:

Don't be fooled by that sweet-faced boy. We found him at the end of a long trail of darkspawn bodies – including two enormous ogres – alone and blood-splattered. Since he only says “Enchantment? Enchantment!” we never did find out what happened; however, one can infer.

My “Sophie's Choice” moments:

I chose Anora to rule alone. As many times as she betrayed us, I thought she was the stronger of the two. Prior to the final onslaught I did convince Alistair to see the rightness of marrying Anora; however, when push came to shove, I couldn't condemn him to life with that scheming wench. Besides, he really didn't want to be king he was only doing it to stop a civil war. He loved being a Grey Warden and the look on his face when I suggested he marry her was heart-breaking.

With regard to Morrigan's offer to save us both by having Alistair sleep with her: I told Morrigan I would talk to Alistair. When the time came to bring up the subject with him, I got as far as mentioning “what if no one had to die” and then couldn't do it. It felt like a betrayal of all the things he and the Grey Wardens stood for – duty and honor. During one of my conversations with Wynne she mentioned that it might come to having to choose between our duty as Grey Wardens and love as we probably couldn't have it both ways. She was right… and wrong. Alistair and I had a small disagreement as to who would take the kill shot as neither of us wanted the other to die.

Talking to my companions after it was all over brought me to tears. Zevran and Oghren made me laugh and cry.

I want a ballista of my very own.

I spent approximately 67 hours wandering through Ferelden and loved every minute of it! Just before the credits rolled: I got a run-down of how things continued on in Ferelden with the Dalish, Dwarves and some others I met along the way. That was very cool to tie up loose ends. Interesting note: after I finished, I wanted to check my final hour count and the game told me that there was some extra content for having completed the game so it took me back to my camp just before the final assault on Denerim.

My decisions in a nutshell:

  • I saved both Connor & Isolde by asking/saving the Circle of Mages.
  • Only the Mayor died in Redcliffe.
  • I did not bargain with any of the Desire Demons.
  • I chose not to side with the Templars as Mages need love & understanding, too.
  • I sided with the werewolves and convinced the Dalish to lift the curse.
  • I did not kill the Oak Guardian, nor did I kill the crazy Hermit.
  • I allied with Coridin and killed off crazy Branka thus destroying the Anvil of the Void.
  • I chose Prince Bhelen as the next Dwarven king. There was much trading and progressive policies after; however, lots of in-fighting to where Bhelen dissoved the parliament and ruled alone as a tyrant.
  • I did none of the Crows quests, nor did I do any of the quests that the bartender in the Noble Tavern had.
  • I killed Lohgain after first accepting his surrender. Alistair pitched a fit and I was ready to defend my choice until Riordan suggested he be made a Grey Warden. For the most part, the Wardens are an honorable lot and Lohgain didn't fit that mold. I lopped off his head.
  • At Landsmeet, I chose Anora to rule alone even though I'd originally suggested that she marry Alistair and they rule together. Alistair and I had a love match, there was no freakin' way I was consigning him to living with that two-faced bitch. Plus, I think Aemon was looking for a puppet. Oddly, the game seemed to assume that I made Alistair King as he made a couple of references to his being King.
  • I did not take Morrigan up on her offer of saving both Alistsair and I.
  • Alistair refused to let me make the killing blow thus he made the ultimate sacrifice. Afterwards, everyone is celebrating him as a hero and poor Ilonka is still mourning his loss.

*edit: Forget that last paragraph (to echo Spike, we need strike-through). The game was just telling me that I could still play my DLC even though I've finished. Since there's only the two – which I've completed – there's nothing left for me to do. I'm bereft. :D

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We're in Orzammer now planning to talk to two contenders who want to be king. I guess we have to decide between them.

We tried to enter the Brecilian forest earlier and met up with an angry female elf we had to fight. I was wondering if I might endanger the treaty by killing them, so I reloaded and left. I wanted to get back with the Revenant but didn't want to create a problem.

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“My cutscenes always showed the changes in armor and weaponry, including Morrigan (360 as well). “

Well, that's… strange. Mine don't. Have you patched the game? My Xbox 360 is offline so if there were any pathces, I don't have them.

“Oh and I never, ever used Morrigan's shapeshift powers. The fact that her default was a giant-ass spider kept me from even upgrading that skill/talent tree.”

Hahaha, yeah, every time I change Morrigan into a giant spider I feel the sting of unease. Although it IS kinda sweet when you web some of the enemies in place. But, transforming into a badass bear and a swarm of killa insects is also fun. Later on you get the capacity to turn into REALLY bad versions of these animals… Too bad I have replaced Morrigan with Alistair in my parety for the most part. He is kinda cute, damnit.

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I wish the party allowed for five... I can already see myself  facing difficult traveling dilemmas. I like my dog, but I need a caster and a thief (haven't met one yet) in the party; I'm a warrior but it's good to have two of those; Morrigan's really a bitch but I'm hoping to get some nookie out of this game; etc etc etc.

I didn't play last night because my vacation had just started and I was drinking to celebrate. You have to be fully sober to enjoy Dragon Age. I played Demon's Souls instead, and made no progress at all.

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ROFL, Steerpike!

Ahem. There was many a time that I wanted more than four in my party. I really wished to be able to travel with them all in a massive "hell's riding with me" gang. You should be able to meet a couple of prospective party members in Lothering.

Pokey, if your coercion is high enough, you can talk that elf in the Brecilian Forest back from the edge. I got her to see the error of her ways without combat. I think I received an amulet for my trouble from her. The Revenants in the "places of power" (I think that's what they're called) are totally worth fighting for the loot they'll give (the strength requirement is high, but somehow my game allowed me to outfit Alistair with it).

Meho, yes, I am playing online so my game could well be patched although I don't remember getting any messages of updates available during any of my play sessions. Live is pretty "in your face" when it comes to patching games you play connected to Live. I was tempted to upgrade Morrigan's shapeshifter skill set just to be able to get the swarm, but her Cone of Cold coupled with Fire blast/ball worked so well I didn't need anything else.

Speaking of Fireball: In the final onslaught, I had Alistair, Leliana and Wynne with me. Wynne was still my principal healer, but I'd also specced her with Petrify and Fireball. (if you look at previous postings, you'll see that fireball could be a problem if I wasn't careful. Friendly fire is not really friendly at all. It's still fire!) We walked into one room where there had to be 20 or more genlocks waiting for us. Everyone held back while Wynne let loose with a massive fireball that promptly fried and dropped half of them. Five more dropped from residual damage as we walked through the door. That left 4 for Alistair and I to actually take down in one hit. Awesome battle.

I cannot let go of this game. Or it won't let go of me. Last night, I played the human noble origin: Arl Howe's treachery knows no bounds. I now feel particularly vindicated in how my original game played out. I played up until Duncan sent us out into the Korcari Wilds. While in Ostagar, I found two quests and people that I hadn't previously come across in my original play-through. Somehow I had completely missed those areas of the camp.

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You guys need to hurry up and finish! I cannot continue to have conversations with myself about the game in general and specifically the ending... out loud... others are beginning to suspect my madness. [Image Can Not Be Found]

This is the first "group play" game where I've been the first to finish and it's killing me.

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You could start another character and probably catch up pretty quickly.

I'm moving slowly though the game is beginning to grab me a bit. To put my progess into persepective I'm still working on the Grey Warden Joining ritual. I haven't played an old school game like this in a while so it's taking me some time to get my bearings. I still can't for the life of me control my party so it's like a bunch of 3 year olds running around a battlefield.

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Scout said:

You could start another character and probably catch up pretty quickly.


I've actually considered this. I did do the human noble origin, with a rogue and got a little more of the back-story. I'm planning to do the other origins just to see what else I've missed - I'd like to see/get Leliana's personal quest. I don't think I'd want to continue with the human rogue as my original warrior character was a rogue in disguise as she was a dual-wielding fiend at the end. The only thing she couldn't do were traps, locks and pickpocket. Perhaps I could try a mage. I've never, ever played a mage before...

It took me until Ostagar - after the Korcari Wilds - before I figured out how to actually play the game. I didn't start using the tactics to their advantage until well into the game.

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I'm moving on a bit. Been to the Deep Roads and sided with one of the candidates. Although neither was the nice guy, I went  for the good of the community. At least I think I did. I have problems persuading people. Maybe I can buy a skill point if it isn't too expensive. I have to get some cooperation someway. I've found the most effective tactic with groups of enemies is too tell each companion where to stand and then go pull some of the monsters back to where they are. If I let them loose, it is just a big scramble and we usually all die.  After playing Risen, where you just jump in and play, this game takes a lot of time managing resources, skills, talents, spells as well as battle tactics for groups. Now to see if I can find that character I'm supposed to kill.

I was a long time figuring out that the crystals were used by Shale.[Image Can Not Be Found]

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I've always thought these kind of games are attractive to people with high math skills or whatever equivalent to that there might be in D&D gaming. I read the forums where eveyrone starts to rattle off statistics and my eyes glaze over. I am realizing that I use intuition and reflexes much more than tactics and strategy. That is one reason I think this game is so slippery for me. I did come to enjoy Baldur's Gate 1 though and that was pug ugly compared to this beauty. I just have to find my fighting style I guess. I've dropped the level to Easy and I am going to try and use the tactics button today and see if I can shove some of the boring stuff off onto the AI. I like the characters and story depth a lot.

EDIT: The tactics do help a bit. I'm remembering some of the strategy I eneded up using in BG, like sending the thief, or rouge in this case, out to scout on stealth mode, then leading the enemy back into an ambush. That works here as well, at least so far this morning.

I just met Morrigan at the Grey Warden's stash! Loving the back and forth between her and Alsatair.

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I'm still in Lotharing, but I cleared out the bandit hordes, picked up Liliana and Sten, and am now off to crush some bears and find some lady's green coat. As anticipated, I am suffering greatly from the four-party-member system. I need a fifth! And a sixth! I'm torn between including those I want to bo- ah, make sweet love to, and those who have valuable skills within the party. And like Toger, I'm having difficulty with the tactics system. I need to spend some real time in it to figure out how to make it work to my advantage. Turning them off altogether doesn't seem like a good choice to me, since when they're off I often find my guys just standing there, waiting for an order. I need proactivity!

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