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xtal
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March 23, 2015 - 11:30 pm
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* Ahem *

Soooo ...... shall we?

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I WANT TO SO BAD BUT I CAN'T.

I have no PS4 and it would be irresponsible to buy one right now. This is killing me. Physically.

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Sorry, forgot to post this yesterday for our Euro friends. 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/.....own-blood/

Hah! Look at the lineup..

With some of that stuff I saw in those pics of geggis' gaming room, I'm not sure he'd qualify for donating. boozer

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I'd like to as well, but I'm still without a PS4.  I'm waiting for a good deal on a bundle.  It's killing me too.  I never really care much about playing a game at release, but Souls/Bloodborne is the exception.  Still, I'm tempered by my disappointment with Souls 2.

Soldier on without us Xtal.  What about Pokey and Simple?  You guys in?

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I'd like to, but no PS4 and it will be a while before I even consider it. I thought I was done with Souls games after Dark Souls 2. Loved them, but oh the stress! I've been reading about Bloodbourne the last few days and feeling the urge return. It seems the combat is different and it has difficulty levels, or so I've heard. I think it is in my future, maybe sooner than I expect.

I just finished The Last of Us a while ago. What a great game. I do have about half a dozen others to play on my PS3.

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Uh, in a moment of weakness...I picked up a bundle.  TLoU Remastered, extra controller and Watch Dogs (it was the least crappy of the choices) for $420.  My justification was that I used funds from a work-related award.  That and Xtal's incessant arm-twisting. tongue

The last time I bought a console "early" was the 360, which I kind of regretted.  I paid full price for an Elite that time though.

Agreed Pokey, TLoU is absolutely fantastic.  I'm curious to see how it looks on PS4.  It really seemed to push the PS3 to its limits.

*Sigh*  So much for tempering my enthusiasm.

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Yeah, I'm crunching numbers right now too. Where'd you get that bundle, Botch? It wouldn't happen to be a place I could spend Amazon points, would it?

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I'm alive! I have also beat the first boss (I think it's the first one...but, you know...) after... oh, I don't know, I probably played for five hours, but I'm super slow so it was not a lot of progression.

I'm obviously not qualified to say much at this point ... but ... this is a lot like Dark Souls 1. The level design is very, very interconnected, and progression relies mostly upon unlocking shortcuts to make world traversal more bearable, just like DkS and DeS.

It is already clear to me that a more talented level design team is behind Bloodborne than Dks2. In my five hours or so I have unlocked the equivalent of 3 of Dark Souls' bonfires; but one was basically at the very start of the game (it's tiny tutorial, I guess), and the other one so far seems to just be an end-of-boss-room-convenience thing. So yeah, neither of those make much of a difference, so I've effectively unlocked 1 "bonfire" (they're lanterns here). The rest of my progress has been unlocking varying shortcuts.

The hub world, however, like in Demon's Souls, is cut off from the rest of the world so far as I can tell. Also, like Demon's Souls, from what I can tell there is no upgrading of armor, and weapon upgrading seems very straightforward. This is sort of like the simplified system I talked about wanting after Dks2's high complexity. Also as some of you may have heard, "sword and board" is not really a thing here. I don't have a shield yet. Some enemies have them, so I may come across one eventually. I have a "Trick weapon" and a pistol. The pistol is used as parrying was in the Souls games: stun the enemy with a well timed shot and respond with massive damage. The trick weapon is your primary handed weapon but it can transform. There are 3 options at the start (once you die once and get to the hub): the weapon that has been used in all preview coverage (the saw cleaver thing), an axe, and a cane. I picked the cane because it looked the least weapon-y. I'm glad I did. I basically acts like a sword/beating stick, but it transforms into a chain whip, and that attack is highly necessary for dealing with groups of mobs. I want to keep writing stuff but I should wrap up this first post. There's just so much to say though!

Yharnam feels ... very much alive so far. There are people locked in their homes to whom you can speak (mostly they mock you, and pity you for being locked outside on a "night of the hunt"). Enemies roam around, and not in a small meaningless way either. There is a major intersection in one of the first primary areas and I had a hell of a time fighting there. New enemies seemed to keep showing up. The combat so far is thrilling and different enough from the Souls games.

I read almost no preview coverage and watched few videos, and I'm glad. Being surprised again in a world that From (and clearly Miyazaki) has created is a feeling unlike any other.

I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, folks, but so far I think Bloodborne is a very, very good game. I still highly enjoyed my time with Dark Souls 2, but to me Bloodborne already has a more essential feeling to it. You can bet I am diving back in to play it some more after this post!

Oh, I had one bout of jolly co-operation last night. Co-op has changed; you need to use a consumable item to partake now; the item seems rare-ish, but you get one every time you encounter a boss, so for every failed boss attempt (I believe) you should be able to have a chance to summon help. It seems to me that they've designed it in such a way where you will be more reluctant to call for help throughout an entire world since you risk wasting finite items, and instead save it for bosses. This is one of several changes, not necessarily better or worse, but different enough. Bloodborne is certainly its own game from what I've seen so far.

 

As you all know, I am a believer in certain games being system sellers (Shadow of the Colossus for PS2, for example), and I think Bloodborne is probably going to be one of those games for PS4. It already has its hooks in me.

Back to the hunt!

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I'll be joining you next week.  Thanks for the initial impressions.  My biggest concern was that the feel of the combat would be a step down (as it was for me in DkS2, even though I know you had no problem with it).  I'm fine with it being different, with shields taken out of the equation.

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It'll take more than one game for me to get a PS4 and the last thing I need is yet another platform to distract me from the others. I've all on keeping up on PC, never mind with the Vita and Wii U as well. Besides, I can't afford a video card and PS4!

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geggis said
Besides, I can't afford a video card and PS4!

Right. So the choice is clear! PS4 = Bloodborne!

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Is the multiplayer performing as it should? Are you able to summon help when needed? I remember now that to summon help, you need to be a PSN+ member. I'm not interested in that except to maybe get some help in the game if I need it. If it is not working well, I won't bother paying for PSN+.

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Not to sway you one way or another, Pokey, but PS+ is among the best $60 a year I spend. Free games - good ones - every month, assuming it still works the same way on PS4. 

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Yeah PS+ is pretty awesome, unlike Live Gold which never offered me anything I wanted.  Moving multiplayer behind the pay-wall does sting a bit though.

Xtal, what's your take on the reported performance problems: bad framerate and long load times?

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Steerpike, you were wondering about Amazon points?  Just call me your pusher.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStat.....rne+bundle

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March 30, 2015 - 9:54 pm
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You son of a bitch.

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Well I've got a PS4, and a copy of Bloodborne...and a 102 degree fever.  I'll try to get everything set up today.

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Aieee! Get some rest and drink Gatorade. I'll refrain from the obvious "blood-borne" crack here.

This Amazon deal is hard to pass up, even in my current between-projects-and-with-plenty-of-games state. I turn forty pretty soon, though, so maybe I just need to leave the catalog out on the counter with a big marker circle around it...

Feel better Botch.  :)  

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Thanks Steerpike.  Feeling better already.  Yeah, I kinda wish I had waited a bit until that bundle showed up.  But I'm satisfied - I knew I wanted an extra controller.  Protip: Never buy used console controllers.  It's just not worth it.

Bloodborne sure feels like Dark Souls, but the combat is very different and is taking some getting used to.  I've died at least once to every foe I've faced so far.

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