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geggis
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October 23, 2017 - 11:11 am
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So we don't really have anything like this do we?

I just wanted to post up how I was listening to Michael Giacchino's music earlier (he's scored lots) and I realised how I really struggle to listen to Married Life from the Up soundtrack. Gaaaaaad damn. Don't really care much for the rest of the film with its talking dogs flying planes, but that opening 15 minutes, which I've only seen once, has power that reaches me fully through Giacchino's theme. Is someone chopping onions again?

Which leads me to a short on Netflix that I saw recently called The House of Small of Cubes. It won an Academy Award back in 2008 so how I'd never heard of it I'll never know. Either way, it's wonderful and definitely worth 12 of your minutes.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80142133

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October 23, 2017 - 11:22 am
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Actually, Giacchino also scored Inside Out and my favourite of Pixar's shorts La Luna. They're a magic combo.

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October 23, 2017 - 11:47 am
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I feel like Giacchino is two people. One of them scores Pixar and stuff and I really like his music. The other scores every sci-fi action blockbuster and they just sound same-y and meh.

Though I will grant that the theme to the Kelvin timeline Star Trek films, "Enterprising Young Men," is one of my favorite parts of those movies.

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October 23, 2017 - 12:02 pm
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Haha, yeah, I agree. I know his theme for Medal of Honor: Allied Assault is terrific.

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Michael Giacchino, of course, of Lost fame. Lost (or "LOST", if you're the type of person who types things like "ICO" and "NIeR:Automata") was a television show that ran from 2004-2010 and that was real and not purgatory but really real, as confirmed by the last episode of the show ever where they say "this sure was a real thing that happened for real and purgatory definitely wasn't a part of it", and somehow the lasting legacy of Lost is jokes about how it was purgatory the whole time, which it one hundred percent confirmed was not.

Did he score the first Trek reboot directed by JJ Abrams (who, coincidentally, as it turns out, is often credited for the whole of the aforementioned television show Lost, when actually he had nothing to do with it after the pilot aired, but hey, I guess it's okay that I'm the only person on the planet who understands facts and reality)

If he did, that was a fine intro scene. You know, the scene where George T. Kirk goes down with his ship while engaged in what he knows will be the last conversation ever with his wife while she is literally birthing their son and who the hell is chopping onions in the movie theater? Let's get 'em, Gregg. But fucking hell. You all know the scene I mean. The sad orchestral swooning during the space battle scene...just devastating. Star Trek 2008 is one of the rare films that has a sequence in it, at which I am powerless to not get teary-eyed every time I watch it. Another example of that is the 60% beautiful film, Wall-E, a movie I'm sure Gregg hates more than Journey.

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Okay but really, can we like, rank Beatles albums/songs in this thread or something?

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October 23, 2017 - 3:39 pm
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He scored all three of the Star Trek reboot films, as well as Rogue OneDoctor StrangeSpider-Man: Homecoming, some Mission: ImpossiblesJurassic World, Jupiter AscendingJohn Carter, and...well, the list goes on. Like, all of those movies just have this vague background noise I can only describe as "tension," even the ones which have small homages to the series' earlier composer (like the times Rogue One dips into referencing the classic Star Wars score). Like, if you feel like most summer blockbusters have really similar scores, that's because they do.

Meanwhile, he also composes for a ton of Pixar movies which all feel separate and lively, as well as, like, Zootopia, which isn't technically a Pixar movie but is categorically closer than is Star Trek 2009.

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October 23, 2017 - 7:38 pm
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I remember liking the Rogue One soundtrack specifically because it didn't simply rehash everything John Williams composed for Star Wars.

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One of my patented list of Seven Things Wrong With The Force Awakens I compiled in the moments following my first viewing was that the score didn't do enough new, so I can appreciate that Rogue One didn't do that. My problem with Rogue One and most of Giacchino's other work in the genre is that it all sounds very similar and also completely forgettable. I want Rogue One to sound different from Star Trek and even more different from Jurassic World, but they all kind of just sound alike.

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I've seen four of the movies you mentioned and yeah, no soundtrack stands out as memorable besides Star Trek. But even that, I mostly like it for the scene I mentioned.

Can't remember Zootopia, Jurassic World, or Jupiter Ascending (just how bad it was). That I don't remember Jurassic World surprises me. If I had to pick my favourite movie soundtrack it would be Jurassic Park because that's my favourite movie. It was so damn John Williams, but so damn good. I think a lot of that soundtrack has stayed with people through the past 24 years. At least, people who were kids when it came out.

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October 23, 2017 - 9:09 pm
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The Zootopia score is more in the department of those Pixar scores. Energetic and emotive. The opposite of most of those others.

Jurassic Park also has one of my favorite film scores of all time. I understand that not everyone's going to be John Williams, of course, but the fact that Giacchino does so many of this type of movie and I can't really put my finger on any piece of music from them (aside from the aforementioned theme to the Star Trek movies) dismays me. The scores feel like such non-entities in most of them, mostly very blunt emotional guides for the audience.

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These days it takes a particularly strong theme or melody to break out of all the orchestral noise, at least on a first viewing. I don't remember anything specifically from Rogue One or A Force Awakens or Star Trek or a lot of anything else from most modern orchestral scores. I think the last one that jumped out at me was How To Train Your Dragon's main theme. Animated films eh? I will say though that, yeah, I appreciated Rogue One not recycling William's themes too, and count me in in thinking Jurassic Park's soundtrack/main theme is just full on John Williams and absolutely fucking glorious.

When I start thinking of modern memorable soundtracks artists like John Murphy, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, Clint Mansell and more recently Jóhann Jóhannsson--who was going to score Blade Runner 2049 but was replaced (booo!) by Hans Zimmer (booo!) quite late on--come to mind. Zimmer's done some great stuff, notably Gladiator, Inception and Interstellar (even if that soundtrack was riffing on Philip Glass' Prophecies from Koyaanisqatsi. Fair play to him for identifying a piece that befits the scale and tone of the film), but the problem I have with Zimmer is that he's used for everything. He's the go-to composer for a lot of Hollywood. Safety first.

Oh, did anybody hear Disasterpiece's soundtrack for It Follows? Now that's a memorable one. So so good.

This is an interesting article:

http://www.comicsbeat.com/here.....-universe/

I also appreciate the deeper cuts on this list:

https://theplaylist.net/50-best-film-scores-21st-century-far-20160818/#cb-content

(Don't read the comments, "Waaah, where is X? Garbage list!" etc.

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geggis said

Oh, did anybody hear Disasterpiece's soundtrack for It Follows? Now that's a memorable one. So so good.

Had no idea he scored that. Obviously I love the Fez soundtrack. Must check this out!

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November 9, 2017 - 9:18 am
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xtal said
Another example of that is the 60% beautiful film, Wall-E, a movie I'm sure Gregg hates more than Journey.

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Okay but really, can we like, rank Beatles albums/songs in this thread or something?  

I forgot to respond to this!

Wall-E was my favourite Pixar movie until Inside Out! I actually thought that Dumbo might be better for a spell until I watched them both back to back on a flight from Australia (I watched Bambi too, the guy sat next to me must have thought I was a right weirdo), and Wall-E was the better flick for me. It's just so sweet.

Inside Out is such a clever film though and deals with all kinds of issues in a way that children can understand, accept and hopefully use to deal with their own (and others'!) problems in the future. It's a really powerful film when you consider what it's doing addressing anxiety and depression and isolation and the need for a rainbow of emotions to externalise our feelings. The bit with Joy acknowledging the importance of Sadness is just... holy shit. It's god damned funny too.

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Rank Beatles albums/songs...? I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

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geggis said

Rank Beatles albums/songs...? I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.  

Reference to 2001: A Space Odyssey-- coincidentally one of my Top-5-All-Time-Movies--, a 1968 film...this is a coded message to tell me that your favourite Beatles album is The white album? Very clever, very clever. White album is #3 for me.

Also, Wall-E and Inside Out are easily my two favourite Pixar flicks. I cried at both. I cried at Inside Out a lot. During the sadness montage. During the ending. When Bing Bong .... well, you know. If the second half of Wall-E was cut out, it would make my shortlist of favourite movies. The first half of that was one of the best, most bewildering movie theater experiences I've had.

Did you know that by 2025 the fifth Avatar movie will supposedly be out? That's horrifying. Please retire, James Cameron.

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It's funny actually, in my email notification you originally typed Abbey Road but I think it would indeed be the White Album so... well corrected! Dear Prudence is a favourite of mine.

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I did originally type Abbey Road, shamefully, and then quickly corrected myself. But indeed, those notifications tell the truth!

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