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Michigan, and our Affiliations
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Helmut
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August 22, 2011 - 2:55 pm
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It says here, that Michigan is a place where no one is buying new houses and a net exodus state. Has anyone been up to the Northern end touring around? Is it pretty, wind tortured, and wild?

 

Further, these people have something going on.

 

The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place.

 

Maybe Tap should research dropping the silo (located in sunny New Mexico BTW) and relocating to a morality free sea platform? We could pull a Cryptonomicon and act as a anonymizing proxy hub with no records of IP access and fund our outrageous levels of fun from offshore gambling hosting and stem cell research labs with a cold fusion wing all tricked out.

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I've said all along that we should have our own island. It makes perfect sense.

We could name it Rapture. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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Ech.. Being legally regarded a micronation is a complicated business, and it's rarely universally recognised. You're horribly vulnerable to 'criminal' acts but entitled to no protection, mandating a rather paranoid outlook in life against any group of even LESS moral opportunists with a boat.

Boats, you see. Boats are the key.

A Boat for you, a Boat for me.

Ultimately you can have a hugely expensive yet untested floating platform that rots from the inside out and a ton of legal/social complications relating to shared residence..

Or you can have a BIG BOAT, WOO! You get to run up a pirate flag and go wherever you want and be drunk at the helm and call people BILGE RATS and pour the dregs of your funky cocktails into the lower decks to create TASTY ARTIFICIAL BILGE that is nonetheless SO NOXIOUS IT KILLS ANY AND ALL BACTERIA AND SMELLS SO CLEAN YOUR NOSE BURNS.

Mobility, simplicity, pirate humour.  Get me a giant catamaran pleasure-cruiser and a scurvy crew any day. Keep your steenkeng atolls!

Watch Waterworld! It's a bad idea! (but a great film, whatever the critics say..)

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August 22, 2011 - 6:52 pm
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Someone cut off Jakkar.[Image Can Not Be Found] And take his keys.

 

Good luck dissuading SP of his silo scheme. It's been tried before. I was all for a nicely finished subway tunnel under a trendy London neighborhood…..but nooooooo. [Image Can Not Be Found]It's got be a damp hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere. Just wait will till someone runs out of frozen pizza at 4am on a weekend. Then who will be sorry. And this floating thing is nothing I'd want to get close to. An island, on the other hand, sounds nice.

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August 22, 2011 - 7:33 pm
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Now hang on, there, those under-London tunnels just seemed awful. It said they were hot, for one thing, and not hot in the good way (radioactive), hot in the hot way. I would be okay with a silo in Michigan. In fairness, I did lose some interest in the silo idea when I learned that there was no missile in it. If we don't have a missile to fire at our enemies we're practically naked… though I suppose agreeing on who our enemies are so we would know where to fire our one missile would lead to problems anyway.

My concern with islands is their inherent island-ness. I worry about the weather. What if island weather doesn't agree with me? Not that many islands are like Greenland or Great Britain, cool and cloudy all the time. A silo is climate-controlled. Also, my chances of convincing the rest of you to build me a palace (when missile silos are all palace) are slim.

Michigan is a nice place and property values are, ah, depressed right now. We could probably get an island for the change in Toger's couch. Plus we'd have the Great Lakes, which are a significant natural resource.

I am open to discussion.

 

The island, of course, would be named "Steerpikeopolis," but we could have a neighborhood called Rapture.

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Steerpike, we are one with the hot weather hatred; however, islands are butterfly-kissed by trade winds thus rendering that whole "It's Africa hot" issue moot. Plus, there's clear, luxuriously warm ocean if the winds should fail to deliver...

And natives we can ensla... er, cajole into bringing us refreshing beverages and fanning us with palm fronds.

uh... Waterworld is a "great film"?! Yeah, and I'm a natural blonde.

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August 23, 2011 - 12:51 am
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Steerpikeopolis is an inspired choice. Like new world technical adaptability and responsiveness crossed with old world banking credibility and taste in clothing. Any potential suitors for our technical services would not notice our lack of ability with database driven things until it was too late.

Might I suggest the Pacific Gyre as a locale? Pull up the anchor anytime and float around to avoid storms, never drifting too far from the nexus, plus any plastic we would need we could harvest from the sea, if we could clean that obnoxious plankton from it. 

Not too sure I can adapt my aged wetware to libertarianism, nor the posthumanist movement. Have to be good old donuts and coffee and cribbage 24/7.

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Helmut said:

It says here, that Michigan is a place where no one is buying new houses and a net exodus state. Has anyone been up to the Northern end touring around? Is it pretty, wind tortured, and wild?

 

My parents have a little cottage just south of Manistee... the only thing it lacks is a decent internet signal.

See for yourself:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U8MtczTdVJ4/TlrEQmcWMUI/AAAAAAAAADQ/yyS1ZIUTT3M/s400/2011-08-28_16-31-32_938.jpg

Everything else is perfect; despite that, a lot of houses won't sell. And I don't know why... there are miles and miles of (usually) empty beaches with 70-80 degree weather all summer long. Most of the places have towns close by and there's always something to do.

As long as you can bully Comcast or some other ISP to get their butts up there and fix the internet situation, you're golden.

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kaythomas
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I just read this thread and Jakkar said.............Ultimately you can have a hugely expensive yet untested floating platform that rots from the inside out and a ton of legal/social complications relating to shared residence..

I suspect that this isn't anything that will interest anyone but that is a perfect description of Venice.   I just had to say it.

Kay

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September 9, 2011 - 10:02 pm
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but that is a perfect description of Venice

Oh, Kay, that was classic. I howled. 🙂

Northern Michigan is really lovely. There's the whole northern half of the mitten, which is nice, and there's also the Upper Peninsula, which most people forget we have. Michigan people often go up there to enjoy the lakes and greenery. It's a useful place to have. Remember when Stardock's game Elemental was such a bomb? CEO Brad Wardell retreated up north for two weeks. Bearwhale's right, though, the internet service isn't great. But it's very nice for vacations.

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Helmut
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Now about that avatar, Bearwhale. It's looking a lot like bear-bear there, and that just wont do. How 'bout something a bit more...

 

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Helmut + Photoshop = joy.

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